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[½»Á÷] ¡¾weekly topic¡¿To dismantle or not dismantle

We are experiencing a rapid urbanization now. The cities are expanding their boundaries to all directions, north, south, east, west, upward, downward. More and more villages are caught into the arms of city. These villages become into village-in-city.

What¡¯s the fate of such urban villages?

I don¡¯t know much about such village. At first sight, the buildings in these villages are not beautiful, some are short, some are tall, but everyone has a similar shape, without little element in their design, they are only built for use, so all the decorations are left out, in order to reduce the cost. Do these houses have pipe line systems for sewage, tap water and gas? I don¡¯t know. Perhaps conditions may be different in different cities.

The lanes in these villages are very narrow, compared with the wide street in the cities. House rent in these villages are low, they become very good homes for newly graduated students and for farmers who come to work in cities.

Often, the building in such villages are not tall, but in one such villages in our city, building are all about 8-10 stories tall, compared with 4-5 in other villages.

In order to make the city beautiful, all the villages are being dismantled now. It is easy to dismantle such villages. Only about 20 days are needed to pull down such a village.

Then taller, more beautiful buildings will be build at the sites of these villages.

It seems who pay for it is not important.

But, obviously, dismantling such buildings is a waste.

A couple of years ago, a 28-story building beside the West Lake in Hangzhou was dismantled. Compared with such a building, buildings in urban villages can only be regarded as nothing.

But, they are buildings, they are built with cement, brick, steel, workers got paid for their building process. Although they are shabby, they are not beautiful, they can still be used. It is said that the life of a building in China is 70 years. But, too often, many buildings are pulled down in their childhood.

A question is, do such building have to be pulled down?

What¡¯s your opinion?


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shuixian2009: »ØÌûÖö¥ 2012-09-21 17:38:53
winter_north: ½ð±Ò+10, ESEPI+1, Yes, I aso think they should be dismantled, at least partly protected or left. 2012-09-22 00:16:40
I don't think they should be dismantled. Even in the developed countries there are many slums in the center of the city, why should the old buildings for the underprivileged be dismantled?
For the general planning or layout of the whole city, they may need equal beautiful buildings. But in fact, the houses and simple apartments in the outskirt of the city are established for urgent use, not for the visitors' eyes. The city are developed, improved by the citizens and for the citizens, so the government should take into their needs into account first. People are born equal, and citizens living in the downtown or the suburbs should be equal in the share of common resources, so those from the villages need not to sacrifice their simple  demands to the commercial use of only a dose of citizens.
In the next step, we should consider how to rebuid or decorate the houses in the suburban areas in an convenient and pratical way rather than dismantle them or leave them they used to be. In America, there are many movable houses and buildings in the farms that can be small and exquisite. Likewise, in the rebuilding of old houses some new building materials can be introduced or exact standards can be made. These may cost far less than building new ones and also can benefit more people because the same problems are faced nationally.  
To balance between the requirements from the downtown and the suburban areas asks for the efforts from many sectors and aspects, technologies, management and laws. Maybe some of us wil contribute to that.



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winter_north: ½ð±Ò+2, Hehe, whol will protect? 2012-09-22 00:14:41
winter_north: »ØÌûÖö¥ 2012-09-22 00:15:06
Housing old enough for memorial represent civilization of our rice.
However, the education system is the spirit of culture, old and facing challenges from nowaday people as they have learned the western style, who will protect?
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winter_north: ½ð±Ò+6, Yes, living conditions in China are not good, we have too many inhabitants. 2012-09-22 02:41:54
winter_north: »ØÌûÖö¥ 2012-09-22 02:42:09
Some old houses which possess special culture and history should not be dismantled, but others can be pulled down for the new city if they are too old and shabby. Meanwhile, the government should focus on the quality of people' life except for the modern facilities. In some places in German, it seems people are living in a beautiful park, there are many lawns and flowers. I think if more and more of such cities appeared in China, people will be very happy.

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winter_north: ½ð±Ò+1, This should be changed. 2012-09-20 22:52:53
Someone said that the average life of a building in China is 30 years
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3Â¥: Originally posted by st200403 at 2012-09-20 21:42:51
Someone said that the average life of a building in China is 30 years

That's true.
4Â¥2012-09-20 22:52:36
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shuixian2009: Only English here. Thanks 2012-09-21 12:54:58
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shuixian2009: ½ð±Ò+2, Yeah. Thing that has gone never can come back 2012-09-21 12:55:56
in china,we haven\'t realized the importance of protecting old buildings.once they are dismantled,our memories will have no trace to think back.

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shuixian2009: Only English here 2012-09-21 12:56:08
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shuixian2009: ½ð±Ò+2, Yeah. It is common in village. The old houses are dismantled and the new ones arise 2012-09-21 12:58:28
For some village, it is necessary to dismantle some old houses, because they are  so old and shabby, and would be destroyed by wind and rain one day.
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winter_north: ½ð±Ò+2, Yes, this is nostalgia. 2012-09-22 00:19:21
My house be dismantled for a new city. The new house is very convenient which has modern facilities, but the scenery disppeared which I familiar with .
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