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propanediol

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[交流] 【Disccusion】If Gadhafi Loses Libya, The Future Is Unclear

http://www.npr.org/2011/03/29/134949998/if-gadhafi-loses-libya-the-future-is-unclear

March 29, 2011(NPR) Thanks to the bombing campaign now being led by NATO, the Libyan opposition has taken back the territory it had lost to forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in recent weeks.

While the rebels are still a long way from capturing Tripoli, the Libyan capital — or taking control of the entire country — many Western observers believe that Gadhafi's eventual defeat is the most likely outcome.

That still leaves open the question of how the rebels, who are an inchoate group, might govern if they succeed in taking power. It's also not clear what role the international community might play in the aftermath.

"The U.S. has made up a number of contingency plans, but none really looking ahead at how we can keep the country from falling apart," says Dirk Vandewalle, a Libya expert at Dartmouth College

A Country Split In Two?

It's possible that the situation in Libya will become frozen, with rebels controlling the east and Gadhafi remaining in power in the west. Such a scenario is "definitely conceivable," because the U.S., European and other outside military forces don't intend to remain engaged in the area forever, says Richard Downie, deputy director and fellow in the Africa program at the Center for Strategic and International Studies

"That's something really serious to think about," says Micah Zenko, a fellow for conflict prevention at the Council on Foreign Relations who has been critical of the military intervention. "If it's like the end of most civil wars, it won't be Gadhafi falling. Most civil wars end with negotiations, with some zone under rebel control."

Libya could be divided into two viable states. There's enough oil in both halves of the country, and small enough populations, to support separate economies.

But a divided Libya would be predicated on Gadhafi's negotiating an end to the fighting. That strikes many outside observers as unlikely. Although there have been rumors of negotiations involving the Gadhafi regime, Gadhafi and his sons have shown no outward interest in surrendering power, or even a portion of the country. And the rebels are unlikely to be satisfied with Gadhafi remaining entrenched.

Rebels also are unlikely to trust Gadhafi, says William Zartman, the former head of African studies at the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies.

"I just don't see any effective negotiation with Gadhafi," Zartman says. "He is just so imbued with the sense of himself as the incarnation of the nation."

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propanediol(金币+1): 2011-03-30 10:52:34
thank you for your share

i will read it carefully
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propanediol(金币+1): 2011-03-30 10:52:40
i think it's very clear, America become the father of Libya, all Libyan oil belong to America, Britain, France!
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China retreated from Libya.

More than 30000 persons leave safely. But our potencial benefit is in risk.
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libya will be the next Afghan
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propanediol(金币+1):谢谢参与
It's a world ruled by the law of the jungle...
Be the wolf, or get eaten by the wolf, or be China
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Libya is among the top 10 supplier of crude oil of China.

This battle influences China oil input this year
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propanediol(金币+1):谢谢参与
Now the powerful contries have advantage to any other countries,especialy those producing petroleum.
The UN can do nothing .
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引用回帖:
Originally posted by zhangxn2010 at 2011-03-30 12:20:03:
Now the powerful contries have advantage to any other countries,especialy those producing petroleum.
The UN can do nothing .

UN is just a puppy of some contries.

Only Power can talk in every corner of the world.

Even in China
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Originally posted by propanediol at 2011-03-30 12:25:34:
UN is just a puppy of some contries.

Only Power can talk in every corner of the world.

Even in China


The situation is not good.
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the war is a evil,amen
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引用回帖:
Originally posted by zgl09 at 2011-03-30 14:58:04:
the war is a evil,amen

whoever control the world.

Our concern is to enjoy the safe life equally.
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lppv(金币+1): it seems you know much about this issue or you think much about this. 2011-03-30 15:26:03
The battle, or so called "riot" ,in  Egypt, Libya, Yemen, etc attract the attentions all over the world.

Western world take this chance to control the muslim countries!

What I am interested is that the leader in above mentioned countries take the power for 30-40 years.

This is rare in modern society.

The transition of power is not inevitable this time.
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引用回帖:
Originally posted by erics080 at 2011-03-30 11:53:54:
libya will be the next Afghan

Libya is not the 2nd Afganistan.

The latter has no oil, just extemist.

Libya is similar to Irak.
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one divide two
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propanediol(金币+1):谢谢参与
I'm reading, thanks!
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propanediol(金币+1):谢谢参与
maybe。。。
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propanediol(金币+1):谢谢参与
can you translate the first paragragh for me ? thank you

i paste it here

Thanks to the bombing campaign now being led by NATO, the Libyan opposition has taken back the territory it had lost to forces loyal to Libyan leader Moammar Gadhafi in recent weeks.

"to forces loyal "here , i can't understand
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引用回帖:
Originally posted by 春暖化开 at 2011-03-31 10:32:19:
can you translate the first paragragh for me ? thank you

i paste it here

Thanks to the bombing campaign now being led by NATO, the Libyan opposition has taken back the territory it had lost  ...

忠于卡扎菲的武装
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Originally posted by propanediol at 2011-03-31 11:38:30:
忠于卡扎菲的武装

great !

thankyou
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