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sunburst8796

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[求助] 有懂“Inner Filter Effect”的么,被审稿人搞懵了!

本人最近投稿一篇,审稿人有三个,有两个审稿人意见都很好,提了一些不是问题的问题,只有一个审稿人很难搞,按照意见修改后,另两个审稿人同意接受,这个审稿人仍然不满意,而且加了感叹号,可见回答得多不满意,可是问题实在很让人迷惑,好像是说我这个分析是基于inner filter effects,但不能用Stern-Volmer equation分析,他认为inner filter effects的特定分析模型不是这个,本人对这个确实不太懂,有没有高手了解inner filter effects该用什么分析才准确,望高手指点,审稿意见如下:
第一次的“This paper presents a study about a sensor for catecholics based on a mechanism called by the authors as an external quenching. The authors analysed the called "external quenching" using a Stern-Volmer equation. This paper has a critical problem which is the interpretation of the mechanism of "quenching". Indeed, this mechanism is the well known fluorescence inner filter effects which have a specific model formulation. Analyzing the observed fluorescence intensity variation using a Stern-Volmer is probably not useful because there is no physical meaning.”
第二次的“The authors have made some improvements in the paper. However there is still a critical problem about the model that they used for the decreasing of fluorescence intensity linearization. Indeed, the Stern-Volmer model corresponds to a quenching mechanism and not to an inner-filter effect decreasing of fluorescence intensity. The application of a Stern-Vomer model in this paper is of empirical nature! For this last phenomenon there are several models in the literature that should be used.”
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sunburst8796: 金币+20, ★★★很有帮助, 非常有帮助 2012-07-01 19:31:54
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liu525

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顶一下,不过我不懂
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3楼: Originally posted by sally208 at 2012-07-01 16:09:28
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非常感谢,我先研究研究。。
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sunburst8796

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3楼: Originally posted by sally208 at 2012-07-01 16:09:28
Page 4 in the following material:
http://www.rsc.org/suppdata/cc/b9/b902216c/b902216c.pdf

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师兄你好,看了你文章里的说明,还是不太明白,我文章里用的应该只是因为内滤效应导致的,按照审稿人的意思,我应该用内滤效应特有的模型,那么是不是说我应该用你文章里的公式1和公式2相加,得到一个关于F/F0的总公式才对?
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