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skydark

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[求助] 空間群bilbao crystallographic server網站的困擾

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bilbao crystallographic server??W?:
http://www.cryst.ehu.es/
??bilbao crystallographic server?????
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REPRES        Space Groups Representations
??? ???x??space group?????Y?^??  64  ??  166, ??? next
????x GM (gamma point) ,  ??????????????°? continue
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?????īI????  ???l?Fbilbao crystallographic server??????īI???????????
????Bi2Se3??generators ????? E , R3 , R2 , I
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iamikaruk

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因为是hexagonal或rhombohedral的不同吧?
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skydark

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2?: Originally posted by iamikaruk at 2015-02-21 02:54:43
?????hexagonal??rhombohedral???????

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hexagonal??Bi2Se3??bravais lattice,  rhombohedral ??Bi2Se3??primitive unit cell
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bilbao crystallographic server?W???o?????D??????????hexagonal??lattice vector?????
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iamikaruk

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3?: Originally posted by skydark at 2015-02-21 03:56:23
?????????_????????
hexagonal??Bi2Se3??bravais lattice,  rhombohedral ??Bi2Se3??primitive unit cell
????_????????
bilbao crystallographic server?W???o?????D??????????hexagonal??latti ...

?????????????????????????????????????rhombohedral??
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skydark

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4楼: Originally posted by iamikaruk at 2015-02-21 08:14:00
你给的文章我没有仔细看,不过似乎他们用的是rhombohedral。...

假設是以rhombohedral的lattice vector做為基底的話
那四個generators矩陣應該是這樣:

   E              R3             R2              I
1  0  0      0  1  0       0  -1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0      0  0  1       -1  0  0        0 -1  0
0  0  1      1  0  0        0  0 -1        0  0 -1

但網頁顯示的是這樣:

   1              2               3                4
1  0  0      0 -1  0        0  1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0      1 -1  0        1  0  0        0 -1  0
0  0  1      0  0  1        0  0 -1        0  0 -1

還是對不上..........
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iamikaruk

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5楼: Originally posted by skydark at 2015-02-21 14:25:46
假設是以rhombohedral的lattice vector做為基底的話
那四個generators矩陣應該是這樣:

   E              R3             R2              I
1  0  0      0  1  0       0  -1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0   ...

我用icsd上的数据,看了下vesta的结果是
hexagonal的是
   1              2               3                4
1  0  0      0 -1  0        0  1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0      1 -1  0        1  0  0        0 -1  0
0  0  1      0  0  1        0  0 -1        0  0 -1

rhombohedral的是
   E              R3             R2              I
1  0  0      0  1  0       0  -1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0      0  0  1       -1  0  0        0 -1  0
0  0  1      1  0  0        0  0 -1        0  0 -1

和你的一样。但是我觉得这个应该没有什么问题,rhombohedral axes和hexagonal axes的基矢不一样,对称操作也不一样。
另外我发现你给的PRB文章里面的x和y是基于笛卡尔坐标系,因此你要把它线性变换到hexagonal axes或者rhombohedral axes下,这样对称操作就是一致的了。
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???????:
6?: Originally posted by iamikaruk at 2015-02-21 23:00:21
????icsd??????????????vesta??????
hexagonal????
   1              2               3                4
1  0  0      0 -1  0        0  1  0       -1  0  0
0  1  0      1 -1  0        1  0  0    ...

??????  ??icsd????????N????
???X?????????
hexagonal???2??generator ?????
0 -1  0
1 -1  0
0  0  1
??????????
-1  -1   0
1   0   0
0   0   1
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iamikaruk

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???????:
7?: Originally posted by skydark at 2015-02-21 23:25:06
??????  ??icsd????????N????
???X?????????
hexagonal???2??generator ?????
0 -1  0
1 -1  0
0  0  1
??????????
-1  -1   0
1   0   0
0   0   1...

#(C) 2014 by Fachinformationszentrum Karlsruhe.  All rights reserved.
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_audit_creation_date 2010-02-01
_audit_update_record 2013-02-01
_chemical_name_systematic 'Bismuth selenide'
_chemical_formula_structural 'Bi2 Se3'
_chemical_formula_sum 'Bi2 Se3'
_chemical_name_structure_type Bi2Te3
_exptl_crystal_density_diffrn 7.7
_publ_section_title

;
X-ray diffraction and (119)Sn Moessbauer spectroscopy study of a new phase in
the (Bi2 Se3) - (Sn Se) system: Sn Bi4 Se7
;
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primary 'Inorganic Chemistry' 1999 38 2131 2135 INOCAJ
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'Perez Vicente, C.'
'Tirado, J.L.'
'Adouby, K.'
'Jumas, J.C.'
'Abba Toure, A.'
'Kra, G.'
_cell_length_a 4.1355(5)
_cell_length_b 4.1355(5)
_cell_length_c 28.615(2)
_cell_angle_alpha 90.
_cell_angle_beta 90.
_cell_angle_gamma 120.
_cell_volume 423.82
_cell_formula_units_Z 3
_symmetry_space_group_name_H-M 'R -3 m H'
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23 '-y+2/3, x-y+1/3, z+1/3'
24 'x+2/3, y+1/3, z+1/3'
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26 '-x+1/3, -x+y+2/3, -z+2/3'
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31 '-x+y+1/3, y+2/3, z+2/3'
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33 '-y+1/3, -x+2/3, z+2/3'
34 '-x+y+1/3, -x+2/3, z+2/3'
35 '-y+1/3, x-y+2/3, z+2/3'
36 'x+1/3, y+2/3, z+2/3'
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_atom_type_symbol
_atom_type_oxidation_number
Bi3+ 3
Se2- -2
loop_
_atom_site_label
_atom_site_type_symbol
_atom_site_symmetry_multiplicity
_atom_site_Wyckoff_symbol
_atom_site_fract_x
_atom_site_fract_y
_atom_site_fract_z
_atom_site_B_iso_or_equiv
_atom_site_occupancy
_atom_site_attached_hydrogens
Bi1 Bi3+ 6 c 0 0 0.4006(1) . 1. 0
Se1 Se2- 3 a 0 0 0 . 1. 0
Se2 Se2- 6 c 0 0 0.2109(2) . 1. 0
loop_
_atom_site_aniso_label
_atom_site_aniso_type_symbol
_atom_site_aniso_U_11
_atom_site_aniso_U_22
_atom_site_aniso_U_33
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_atom_site_aniso_U_13
_atom_site_aniso_U_23
Bi1 Bi3+ 0.005(3) 0.005(3) 0.00109(5) 0.0025(15) 0. 0.
Se1 Se2- 0.036(9) 0.036(9) 0.0010(2) 0.018(5) 0. 0.
Se2 Se2- 0.016(8) 0.016(8) 0.0011(1) 0.008(4) 0. 0.
#End of TTdata_165226-ICSD
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