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[求助] 英译汉 四短语 准确意思

The lusory attitude is the psychological attitude required of a player entering into the play of a game. To adopt a lusory attitude is to accept the arbitrary rules of a game in order to facilitate the resulting experience of play.

The term was coined by Bernard Suits in the book The Grasshopper: Games, Life and Utopia,[1] first published in 1978, in which Suits defines the playing of a game as "the voluntary attempt to overcome unnecessary obstacles". He also offers a fuller definition:

"To play a game is to attempt to achieve a specific state of affairs [prelusory goal], using only means permitted by rules [lusory means], where the rules prohibit use of more efficient in favour of less efficient means [constitutive rules], and where the rules are accepted just because they make possible such activity [lusory attitude]."

求助上述段落中的
prelusory goal
lusory means
constitutive rules
lusory attitude
四个短语的准确意思。

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2楼: Originally posted by ssssllllnnnn at 2014-10-04 23:32:18
"To play a game is to attempt to achieve a specific state of affairs 【prelusory goal】, using only means permitted by rules【lusory means】, where the rules prohibit use of more efficient in fa ...

非常感谢,这个意思都明白。但能否精炼找出四个短语相对应的词语。另外对lusory一词准确意义不是很明白。

例如第一个我把它叫作预设目的,不知合适否。
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"To play a game is to attempt to achieve a specific state of affairs 【prelusory goal】, using only means permitted by rules【lusory means】, where the rules prohibit use of more efficient in favour of less efficient means [constitutive rules], and where the rules are accepted just because they make possible such activity [lusory attitude]."
从上面这段话可以看出:
prelusory goal:在玩某一游戏时试图达到的事务(即游戏中的具体事件,如冲关等)的特定目的。
lusory means:是指限定于游戏中允许的规则(方法)。
constitutive rules:指游戏规则中禁止使用更有效的手段(如通过改编编码的非法手段等)。
lusory attitude:【根据第一段一开始的话】指的是游戏玩家进入游戏角色的心理状态。
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3楼: Originally posted by dxfdxfok at 2014-10-04 19:56:54
非常感谢,这个意思都明白。但能否精炼找出四个短语相对应的词语。另外对lusory一词准确意义不是很明白。

例如第一个我把它叫作预设目的,不知合适否。...

都明白你还折腾什么?不是浪费时间吗?
有些东西很难用简短的词语说的清楚,当然有些是可以的。这你可能比我更在行。例如prelusory goal你用预设目的,如果你在玩这个游戏,或者整天与这些内容打交道,你看到这个词很容易知道是指什么,但对普通大众这预设目的可能无法把本来的含义说清楚。对吗?一定要短语的话,你可以尝试:
lusory means:“游戏规则”
constitutive rules:违规原则?好像不好
lusory attitude:角色定位?

至于lusory,这个好像主要用于玩游戏相关的字,它源于拉丁字lusorius,系指游戏风格等。
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