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enineera

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[交流] 【英语茶座01】搭配恰当是英文地道的前提——从“渗透”与infiltrate说起

昨天一整天都忙于本科毕业论文的答辩工作。很累,倒是对一篇本科论文的标题很感兴趣。汉语标题里含有“渗透文化知识”的字眼,英文标题里却相应地翻译成了“Infiltrating Cultural Knowledge”。看后,我大为惊奇:竟有这样的搭配。我遂发问,你知道infiltrate一词的含义吗?他解释道,是指导老师改的。

哈哈,这对师生全错啦。只要稍微抬手翻一下词典,就可探得infiltrate一词的究竟。查询dictionary.cambridge.org网站,即可得到如下解释:

1) to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves:
A journalist managed to infiltrate the powerful drug cartel.

2)to move slowly into a substance, place, system or organization:
At about this time the new ideas about 'corporate management' had begun to infiltrate (into) local government.

第一个义项显然是“使(思想、人员等)渗透”的意思,往往含有贬义,与中文中的“卧底”很像。第二个义项则是“使(液体等)透过,渗入”的意思,或者是“蔓延”之意。由此可见,“渗透文化知识”翻译为“infiltrating cultural knowledge”实在不妥。我们从中可以掂量搭配恰当的重要性和勤翻词典的必要性。

【思考题】

1.1 knowledge能跟learn这一动词搭配吗?若能,请从英文网站上给出实例。若不能,请列举可用的动词。

1.2 请寻找一部质量可靠的在线词典,查询permeate的含义,并注意permeate和infiltrate的异同。

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一看就知道楼主对英语很有研究!

我的一点拙见:
infiltrate一词可用于经济渗透和文化渗透,如economic infiltration和Cultural infiltration。
但是不知道本科生的论文题目”渗透文化知识”是想谈什么?
再说题目不应该用infiltrate这种动词形式,要用也应该是这种形式:
“Infiltration of Cultural Knowledge"
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infiltrate从构词上看是in+filter,其意思是 move in gradually, secretly become part of , 就是逐渐而隐蔽的渗透
permeate从构词上看是per+mei,per=all,mei=pass,其意思是pass through every part of,就是完全的渗透
二者都是动词,都既可以用于实物的渗透,如:水和进入阵地,也可以用于抽象的渗透,如思想和文化等!
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per‧me‧ate
1 [intransitive always + adverb/preposition, transitive] if liquid, gas etc permeates something, it enters it and spreads through every part of it
The smell of diesel oil permeated the air.

2 [transitive] if ideas, beliefs, emotions etc permeate something, they are present in every part of it
Racism continues to permeate our society.
An emotional intensity permeates every one of O'Connor's songs.
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enineera

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Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English对infiltrate和permeate的解释分别如下:

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in‧fil‧trate
1 [>intransitive always + adv/prep, transitive] to secretly join an organization or enter a place in order to find out information about it or harm it
Police attempts to infiltrate neo-Nazi groups were largely unsuccessful.

infiltrate into
Rebel forces have been infiltrating into the country.

2 [transitive] to secretly put people into an organization or place in order to find out information or to harm it
infiltrate somebody into something
They repeatedly tried to infiltrate assassins into the palace.

3 [transitive] to become a part of something - used especially to show disapproval
Commercialism has been infiltrating universities for the past decade.

- infiltrator noun [countable]

- infiltration noun [uncountable]

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per‧me‧ate
1 [intransitive always + adverb/preposition, transitive] if liquid, gas etc permeates something, it enters it and spreads through every part of it
The smell of diesel oil permeated the air.

permeate through/into
Rain permeates through the ground to add to ground water levels.

2 [transitive] if ideas, beliefs, emotions etc permeate something, they are present in every part of it
Racism continues to permeate our society.

An emotional intensity permeates every one of O'Connor's songs.

大家别看英汉词典或双解词典,自己看看能不能拿出汉语中的对应词(equivalent)?

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enineera

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谢谢wengzh2003兄和liubird斑竹参与。

本科生的论文题目原文,我忘记了。大致是“浅谈在高中英语课堂里如何渗透文化知识”。相应的英文题目大致有“Infiltrating Cultural Knowledge"的字眼。

都怪我开始没讲清楚,害得liubird斑竹多费了不必要的思量。
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Main Entry: in·fil·trate  
Pronunciation: in-'fil-"trAt, 'in-("
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -trat·ed; -trat·ing
transitive senses
1 : to cause (as a liquid) to permeate something by penetrating its pores or interstices
2 : to pass into or through (a substance) by filtering or permeating
3 : to pass (troops) singly or in small groups through gaps in the enemy line
4 : to enter or become established in gradually or unobtrusively usually for subversive purposes
intransitive senses : to enter, permeate, or pass through a substance or area by filtering or by insinuating gradually
- infiltrate noun
- in·fil·tra·tion  /"in-("fil-'trA-sh&n/ noun
- in·fil·tra·tive  /'in-("fil-"trA-tiv, in-'fil-tr&-/ adjective
- in·fil·tra·tor   /in-'fil-"trA-t&r, 'in-("/ noun
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Main Entry: per·me·ate
Pronunciation: 'p&r-mE-"At
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): -at·ed; -at·ing
Etymology: Latin permeatus, past participle of permeare, from per- through + meare to go, pass; akin to Middle Welsh mynet to go, Czech míjet to pass
intransitive senses : to diffuse through or penetrate something
transitive senses
1 : to spread or diffuse through
2 : to pass through the pores or interstices of
- per·me·ative  /-"A-tiv/ adjective

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