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otuvlh

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[求助] 表面能的计算

LZ刚学MS,计算Al(111)面表面能时出现了以下几个问题,求高人解答:
1.surface thickness,我看文献中取的都是3,5,7,9。想问一下为什么不取偶数呢?
2.采用LDA的算法,也优化了晶体结构,根据公式: 表面能=(Eslab- n x Ebulk)/2A算的,Ebulk取的是0.5*(Eslab(n+2)-Eslab(n))的平均值。没constraint atom,感觉应该没什么问题,得出的结果大概都在0.82J/m2,而实验值和文献中的值都在1J/m2左右。所以不太清楚是哪里出了问题,求高手提供点思路
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fzx2008: 金币+5, 谢谢指导,辛苦 2013-12-13 20:25:32
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9?: Originally posted by otuvlh at 2013-12-13 08:57:05
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fzx2008: 金币+5, 谢谢指导 2013-12-09 19:05:46
otuvlh: 金币+20, ★★★很有帮助 2013-12-11 08:53:53
LZ???MS??????Al??111??????????????????????????????????
1.surface thickness?????????????????3,5,7,9?????????????????????

>  Al = face-centered cubic
    (111) surface = ABC stacking
    ?????С??С????????? ABC ?Y??(????)
    ?????????~????????±??汣?????
    ??????ζ?????????? 1
    ???????????? 3,5,7,9 ??

2.????LDA????????????????????????: ??????=??Eslab- n x Ebulk??/2A????Ebulk?????0.5*??Eslab(n+2)-Eslab??n))?????????constraint atom???о????????????ó???????????0.82J/m2???????????????е??????1J/m2????????????????????

> ?????~ ???????????
   1) LDA exchange-correlation functional ?? Al ??y???????????
   2) ????????x?????y??h
   3) too good to believe ~ ?????M(DFT level)??????o?????????c?????
       ???????`??~ ??????"???"????????"?^??????(???W)??"
       ???????????c???Y???????????~??????С??~"????"???????? >_<
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2楼: Originally posted by jpchou at 2013-12-09 17:48:57
LZ刚学MS,计算Al(111)面表面能时出现了以下几个问题,求高人解答:
1.surface thickness,我看文献中取的都是3,5,7,9。想问一下为什么不取偶数呢?

>  Al = face-centered cubic
    (111) surface = AB ...

承蒙指教,不胜感激。
关于计算表面能的结果,我也知道这也只是定性地说明结果,不同人做出的计算结果可能会不一样。但是,这个问题算出的结果感觉跟文献中的值差别比较大,计算方法上我也没发现什么问题。所以您说的那几个原因,窃以为本例中可能性不是很大。有没有别的方面的原因呢,关于Ebulk的取法有没有问题呢?
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fzx2008: 金币+3, 谢谢指导 2013-12-11 18:12:27
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