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Yesterday I found some cards  have changed colour. They become yellowish, lost luster. It looks bad
I put  these cards in the drawer.  
Is this an inevitable process or does properly maintaining cards prevent from happening?


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this card white turn to yellow.


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anyone could tell me the reasons ? Thank you.

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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): :tiger39: 2011-02-25 17:20:24
ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by poyoro at 2011-02-25 14:00:15:
Yesterday I found some cards  have changed colour. They become yellowish, lost luster. It looks bad
I put  these cards in the drawer.  
Is this an inevitable process or does  ...

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5Â¥2011-02-25 14:06:04
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): :tiger22: 2011-02-25 17:20:45
sorry
6Â¥2011-02-25 14:10:16
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+5): :tuzi3::tuzi3::tuzi3: 2011-02-25 14:30:55
xia_chong(½ð±Ò+3): I peifu you! :D 2011-02-25 18:01:05
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Plants contain cellulose, lignin and pigment. In the papermaking process, the plant stems (such as straw) after alkaline cooking, and pigments dissolved in alkali lignin, was washed to remove, but a rare addition to clean, which still contains a small amount of pulp lignin and pigment. The lignin and pigment under the action of sunlight and air, and gradually changed, making paper, variable; yellow brittle.
7Â¥2011-02-25 14:21:20
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poyoro

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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by winzhouyun at 2011-02-25 14:21:20:
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in the drawer. no sunshine little air.
8Â¥2011-02-25 14:29:49
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+5): It seems to make sense 2011-02-25 15:00:31
It's rare and commendable that you could conserve so many cards for so long a time! I dumped them immediately after their missions. May be I should learn from you, they are really memorable!
I suggest you to  keep them away from air and light in a container with powerful vaccum effect
10Â¥2011-02-25 14:47:20
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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by poyoro at 2011-02-25 14:29:49:
in the drawer. no sunshine little air.

oxygenation doesn't need sunshine, it needs oxygen.  u should make a glass box which is vaccum.
11Â¥2011-02-25 14:53:42
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+2): OK tks 2011-02-25 15:01:34
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12Â¥2011-02-25 14:55:45
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+2): :tuzi13: 2011-02-25 17:15:58
lppv: only english here.welcome all the same, next time, english o . 2011-02-25 17:29:16
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14Â¥2011-02-25 15:57:11
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+5): tomorrow i will go to school. ...hope you can come Emuch as often as you can . :tuzi12: 2011-02-25 17:18:10
lppv: how to say ËÜÁÏÀÏ»¯ in english? you could try it. 2011-02-25 17:30:28
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15Â¥2011-02-25 16:17:20
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+5): лл :tiger38: 2011-02-25 17:32:13
ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by poyoro at 2011-02-25 14:29:49:
in the drawer. no sunshine little air.

Pity!

Prob'ly OXIDATION happens since there's water and oxygen in the drawer, not necessarily with the presence of sunlight.

The cards weather, yet the memories sweeten.
19Â¥2011-02-25 17:30:16
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xia_chong

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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): It's one of my hobbies, they are very beautiful, I love them 2011-02-25 18:09:00
I am surprised to find that you have collected so many cards.
20Â¥2011-02-25 18:01:48
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xuediandongxi

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poyoro(½ð±Ò+3): ok 2011-02-25 18:49:05
clean the card carefully using soft cloth before keeping them into the drawer, and open the drawer frequently to keep the drawer dry.
22Â¥2011-02-25 18:35:57
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23Â¥2011-02-25 18:49:35
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Originally posted by javy023 at 2011-02-25 18:30:11:
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you are supposed to speak english here,thanks.
25Â¥2011-02-25 19:18:46
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It¡®s Oxidized~
26Â¥2011-02-25 19:20:06
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javy023

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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by lppv at 2011-02-25 19:18:46:
you are supposed to speak english here,thanks.

sorry.i ignored
27Â¥2011-02-25 19:33:09
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zyxme

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i cannot tell you,sorry
28Â¥2011-02-25 19:33:50
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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by javy023 at 2011-02-25 19:33:09:
sorry.i ignored

you are so funny, i did not push you to change it. i just remind you yixiaxia.

that is ok. i did not mean to make you uncomfortable.
29Â¥2011-02-25 19:36:53
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javy023

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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by lppv at 2011-02-25 19:36:53:
you are so funny, i did not push you to change it. i just remind you yixiaxia.

that is ok. i did not mean to make you uncomfortable.

i don't say english long time,i can't express my word ,please understand me
30Â¥2011-02-25 19:41:35
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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by javy023 at 2011-02-25 19:41:35:
i don't say english long time,i can't express my word ,please understand me

that is ok, i can understand.

be happy here.
31Â¥2011-02-25 19:43:27
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32Â¥2011-02-25 19:43:53
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javy023

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ÒýÓûØÌû:
Originally posted by lppv at 2011-02-25 19:43:27:
that is ok, i can understand.

be happy here.

i just read it ,not reply
33Â¥2011-02-25 19:45:05
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it  must   chang  colour
34Â¥2011-02-25 20:00:49
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35Â¥2011-02-25 20:07:45
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+2): 2011-03-23 00:04:11
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+2): It's not a inevitable process :tuzi32: 2011-03-23 00:04:50
It is an inevitable process !don't care about it !
39Â¥2011-02-26 18:59:45
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+5): OK 2011-02-26 23:06:50
The reason why the cards fade is that the chemical which was used in the cards to improve the whiteness had been changed or reacted due to the long-term contact with air. Sunlight will obviously accelerate this progress. The same thing would happen to books, white wall, white clothes etc.

[ Last edited by wangyeliu on 2011-2-26 at 20:50 ]
40Â¥2011-02-26 20:49:13
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): no way :cool: 2011-02-28 11:31:27
poyoro(½ð±Ò+4): 2011-03-23 00:05:13
This time I do not want to talk about the color change. I am concered about the gold coins you left. I think, if you do not distribute them to us, I am afraid that the left gold coins (BBs) may also change their colors in you hands. So i suggest you give it to me more if you like.
41Â¥2011-02-28 05:52:12
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): 2011-03-23 00:05:19
you have so many cards!
42Â¥2011-02-28 14:36:52
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): 2011-03-23 00:05:24
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45Â¥2011-03-01 21:12:53
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Your post has been covered by other newly presented posts. And 35 gold conins are still left. So I decide at once to help you to place it on the top of all posts. This is the aim of writing this response. I am sure I do not want to get extra coins this time. I am just as a volunteer and do not ask for money.
46Â¥2011-03-02 04:39:35
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): 2011-03-23 00:05:39
maybe ,Too long, fade out
47Â¥2011-03-02 08:30:10
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+1): 2011-03-23 00:05:44
sorry,i don't know clearly.but,i think you are best put them at dry environment
48Â¥2011-03-02 09:45:24
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poyoro(½ð±Ò+2): 2011-03-23 00:05:49
They've got oxadated,the best way to keep them is preventing them from air.
50Â¥2011-03-02 12:41:23
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