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marineman

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[交流] 大家对Plos One的影响因子如何预测?

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darwinists

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cxksama(金币+1,VIP+0):感谢积极回复~ 4-24 23:25
这个期刊的审稿政策决定了论文的平均水平不高。但同时他们还是发表了少数高水平的论文。通常一个期刊的影响因子主要取决于引用率高的前20%左右的论文的引用次数,后面大多数贡献不大,所以我的评估应该在1以上,但不会太高,应该小于3.

同时,SCI收录与否也没把握。现在是ISI Web of Knowledge 收录了,但ISI Web of Science没有,后者才包含SCIE.
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marineman

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我之所以设置最后一个选项,是担心Plos One和LNCS一样的下场。
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javaen

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cxksama(金币+2,VIP+0):鼓励新虫,感谢积极回复 4-24 23:25
PLoS One现在还未收录到SCI中,因此今年ISI可能不会统计它的2008年影响因子了。不过,有人早已利用Google Scholar对PLoS One在2007年发表的文章进行了引用统计,结果计算出其IF=5.68。虽然他们没有统计该杂志2006年文章的运用情况,但PLoS One在2006才刊登137篇论文(而2007年为1229篇),所以对统计结果影响不大。就算2006年全部文章引用为零(这是不可能的),PLoS One的IF也达到5.11。所以说,2008年PLoS One的影响因子应该在5以上。
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kernelflyer

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见过PLOS one 上有很好的文章,质量也不一定比PLOS系列中其他的期刊的低。另外老外投稿时和我们对期刊的看法不一样。我个人觉得PLOS one的引用会比一般的杂志高,但是SCI暂时不会收录,如果收录的话,也是等审稿策略改变以后,
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darwinists

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引用回帖:
Originally posted by javaen at 2009-4-24 23:19:
PLoS One现在还未收录到SCI中,因此今年ISI可能不会统计它的2008年影响因子了。不过,有人早已利用Google Scholar对PLoS One在2007年发表的文章进行了引用统计,结果计算出其IF=5.68。虽然他们没有统计该杂志2006 ...

什么人统计的,要知道, Google scholar有很多重复,去掉了吗。
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javaen

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PLoS One民间统计的影响因子出自这里:
http://lampreylinux.wordpress.co ... factor-of-plos-one/

再看看另一处关于PLoS One的走势分析,大致与PLoS Computational Biology相当:
http://www.medsci.cn/shownews.asp?id=132

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javaen

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另外还有一些关于PLoS One的讨论:
http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=220746
http://researchblogging.org/news/?p=17

也许,看过这些讨论后,很少再有人会认为PLoS One的IF<3了。
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darwinists

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看看plos one网页上的这句话,PLoS ONE will rigorously peer-review your submissions and publish all papers that are judged to be technically sound. Judgments about the importance of any particular paper are then made after publication by the readership (who are the most qualified to determine what is of interest to them). 即使plos one发表一些高水平论文,总的影响因子也不会太高。ISI的SCIE迟迟不肯收录它可能也是这个原因。有人误把ISI web of knowledge 收录当成了SCI收录,目前ISI的web of science并没有收录这一期刊。

顺便多说几句,要想在plos one上发表论文,就要放弃拿着期刊做宣传的想法。这个期刊的审稿不审你论文的水平高低,而是可靠与否。也就是说,即使它的影响因子达到100,作者也不能因为在上面发表了论文,而宣称自己的研究水平如何高。这一点不同于传统期刊(以及plos系列的其他期刊)。要证明自己的水平,还要耐性等待他人引用或者被F1000等机构评价一下。

我并没有贬低plos one作者群的意思。好的论文不需要沾期刊的光,而是期刊沾论文的光。只有差的论文才整天宣传自己发表在什么期刊上。俄国数学家佩雷尔曼,因拒领菲尔兹奖而在中国新闻上反复出现,他的论文就没有发表在著名期刊上,甚至可以说没有正式发表,没有经过审稿等过程自己放到网上(arXiv)的。这位人物显然足够自信,没有必要投给严格审稿的顶级数学期刊或综合性期刊。

"the IFs of the journal where a paper is published is a very poor measure of a papers importance"

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darwinists

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http://pbeltrao.blogspot.com/200 ... -impact-factor.html

Guestimating PLoS ONE impact factor
Abhishek Tiwari did some analysis on the number of citations that PLoS ONE is getting so far using Scopus database. We had a small discussion over the numbers on FriendFeed and I ended up looking at different set of values also from Scopus. I tried to predict the first Impact Factor for PLoS ONE that might be out sometime this year.

Before showing the numbers I will repeat again that I think the IFs of the journal where a paper is published is a very poor measure of a papers importance. Although it is probably a good measure of the relative value of a journal (within a given field) we should be striving to pick what we read based on the value of a paper instead of the journal.

The Impact Factors that will be published this year are calculated as the total number of citations from 2008 to papers published in 2006 and 2007, divided by the number of citable units in 2006-2007 (articles and reviews). The data I am looking at is from Scopus so it varies a bit from the one in ISI. The variability comes from the decision of what to include as "citable" articles and from the journals that are covered in Scopus versus ISI.

One problem I found with Scopus data was that, for some journals, the database has multiple entries due to small variations in article titles. For PLoS Biology, PLoS Computational Biology and PLoS Genetics the number of articles published should be less than half of what is reported. This does not appear to be the case for PLoS ONE.
I downloaded the tables of published articles and tried to removed redundancies looking at the tittles and authors. I counted only articles and reviews as citable items but used all articles published in 2006-2007 to get the number of citations in the year 2008. I also did the same calculations for the impact factor of the previous year to be able to compare with the data from ISI. The results were comparable but not the same.



In summary, PLoS ONE might get an impact factor of about half of the expected for PLoS Computational Biology. The usual disclaimers should be said: I have no idea of how complete Scopus data is and how exactly it relates to ISI.

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