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enineera

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[交流] 【英语茶座01】搭配恰当是英文地道的前提——从“渗透”与infiltrate说起

昨天一整天都忙于本科毕业论文的答辩工作。很累,倒是对一篇本科论文的标题很感兴趣。汉语标题里含有“渗透文化知识”的字眼,英文标题里却相应地翻译成了“Infiltrating Cultural Knowledge”。看后,我大为惊奇:竟有这样的搭配。我遂发问,你知道infiltrate一词的含义吗?他解释道,是指导老师改的。

哈哈,这对师生全错啦。只要稍微抬手翻一下词典,就可探得infiltrate一词的究竟。查询dictionary.cambridge.org网站,即可得到如下解释:

1) to secretly become part of a group in order to get information or to influence the way that group thinks or behaves:
A journalist managed to infiltrate the powerful drug cartel.

2)to move slowly into a substance, place, system or organization:
At about this time the new ideas about 'corporate management' had begun to infiltrate (into) local government.

第一个义项显然是“使(思想、人员等)渗透”的意思,往往含有贬义,与中文中的“卧底”很像。第二个义项则是“使(液体等)透过,渗入”的意思,或者是“蔓延”之意。由此可见,“渗透文化知识”翻译为“infiltrating cultural knowledge”实在不妥。我们从中可以掂量搭配恰当的重要性和勤翻词典的必要性。

【思考题】

1.1 knowledge能跟learn这一动词搭配吗?若能,请从英文网站上给出实例。若不能,请列举可用的动词。

1.2 请寻找一部质量可靠的在线词典,查询permeate的含义,并注意permeate和infiltrate的异同。

[ Last edited by enineera on 2005-3-28 at 18:57 ]
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这么好的茶,我也要喝!

knowl‧edge S2 W1 [uncountable]
1 the information, skills, and understanding that you have gained through learning or experienceCOLLOCATIONS
COLLOCATIONS

have knowledge
acquire/gain knowledge (=learn something)
technical/scientific knowledge
in-depth knowledge
detailed knowledge
specialist knowledge (=knowledge about a particular subject)
first-hand/personal knowledge (=knowledge from experiencing something for yourself)
background knowledge (=knowledge you need to understand or do something)
general knowledge (=knowledge about a lot of different subjects)
a thirst for knowledge (=when you want very much to learn things)
You need specialist knowledge to do this job.
knowledge of
His knowledge of ancient civilizations is unrivalled.
knowledge about
the need to increase knowledge about birth control
He did not have much knowledge of American history.
salesmen with good technical knowledge of what they are selling
An in-depth knowledge of accounting is not necessary as training will be given.
The equipment is complex and requires specialist knowledge to be repaired.
The year studying in the US gives students personal knowledge of American culture.
someone with a background knowledge of engineering
a general knowledge quiz
! Do not say that you 'learn knowledge' or 'get knowledge'. Say that you learn a lot or learn a great deal: You can learn a lot through travel.
2 when you know about a particular situation or event, or the information you have about it:
Evans denied all knowledge of the robbery.
I had no knowledge of this whatsoever until The Times contacted me.
(secure/safe) in the knowledge that
Kay smiled, secure in the knowledge that she was right.
be common/public knowledge (=be known about by everyone)
Their affair is public knowledge.
to (the best of) somebody's knowledge (=used to say that someone may not know the true facts)
To the best of my knowledge the new project will be starting in June.
To our knowledge, this is the first time it's happened.
'Is it true that she's leaving the company?' ' Not to my knowledge (=I do not think so).'
without somebody's knowledge
He was annoyed to find the contract had been signed without his knowledge.
She acted with the full knowledge of her boss (=her boss knew about her action).

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不错,正如板柱所暗示的那样,knowledge 不能与learn 搭配!

汉语中可以说‘学习...知识",但在英语中,却不能说“learn... knowledge";只能说”acquire/gain.....knowledge"。也就是说,汉语中可以说“学习知识”,但是在英语中,并没有学习知识的说法,只有‘“获得知识”的说法。

>>>>>除了acquire 和 gain 这两个词之外,knowledge 也可以和 obtain 搭配,也是“学习知识”的意思。呵呵
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enineera

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一看就知道楼主对英语很有研究!

我的一点拙见:
infiltrate一词可用于经济渗透和文化渗透,如economic infiltration和Cultural infiltration。
但是不知道本科生的论文题目”渗透文化知识”是想谈什么?
再说题目不应该用infiltrate这种动词形式,要用也应该是这种形式:
“Infiltration of Cultural Knowledge"
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infiltrate从构词上看是in+filter,其意思是 move in gradually, secretly become part of , 就是逐渐而隐蔽的渗透
permeate从构词上看是per+mei,per=all,mei=pass,其意思是pass through every part of,就是完全的渗透
二者都是动词,都既可以用于实物的渗透,如:水和进入阵地,也可以用于抽象的渗透,如思想和文化等!
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