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[交流] The graduate student is self-supporting,what's ur choice

The points of postgraduate qualifying examination has been published recently, and from this year , it's not free to study, no matter u r the one who just  attend the examination, or u have graduated from it, what's ur opinion......
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Lopemann: 金币+4, Good opinion! 2014-02-20 14:19:08
this policy aim to protecting the right of postgraduate students. government has the obligation to control the amount of postgraduate students instead of creating more.

the bad effect of this policy is predicting. the education will be more unfair,which enforced by this self-supporting policy .the quality of students will not be improved,though the amount will be down.
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Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-02-20 14:44:34
00waterh: 金币+18, ESEPI+1, thanks for sharing this information~lope 2014-02-20 15:19:21
I'm very happy to see this policy carried out.

Actually it's fairly effective to limit the number of postgraduate students, and it gives students more room to consider what it means when one's got a postgraduate certificate.

Top students won't be influenced cause they are funded by school or government or other organizations.

I'm looking forward to further changes to the current policy.

In some developed countries, they divide postgraduate study & research into three parts, Master by Coursework, Master by Research and Doctor of Philosophy.

Master by Coursework has been made clear as a pathway to a profession, say pharmacist, teller, engineer and so on. This type of degree basically is no different to an undergraduate degree (actually employers like undergrad better...), so it's mass produced and not valuable, which is like some of Chinese master degrees.

Then who will choose to do this degree?
A large group is overseas students. They go abroad for master and developed countries see it as an opportunity to make some money.
For the local, basically if their undergraduate degree can lead to a profession, they won't choose to do postgraduate. Locals in Master by Coursework tend to be those who want to do something different or people who do liberal studies which have no corresponding jobs during undergrads.

One more thing here, no matter you are a local or oversea student, you need to pay a large sum of money for it.
(People can still get into PhD program afterwards.)

For Master by Research and PhD, they are research based, which is clear to unis, students, and employers. For the local doing it, they don't have to pay for it (only people who really feel like doing research in the future will choose it.)
For overseas students, after selection(to make sure these students know what research is, and what's going to be like in the future), might be awarded with government scholarship which can cover some or all tuition fee and daily necessity.


What I'm trying to say is that:
People know what they are after while quite a few postgrats in China don't know---they just know they need to get a certificate of postgraduate.

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2楼: Originally posted by Coble at 2014-02-20 12:58:31
Long time ago…Have a seat to see what is gonna be happening.

then just waiting
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Lopemann: 金币+1, wow! "profound"! 2014-02-20 16:04:24
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4楼: Originally posted by 00waterh at 2014-02-20 13:11:01
this policy aim to protecting the right of postgraduate students. government has the obligation to control the amount of postgraduate students instead of creating more.

the bad effect of this pol ...

profound opinion， and precise analysis, anyway ,the final destination is just a good work
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6楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-02-20 14:23:35
I'm very happy to see this policy carried out.

Actually it's fairly effective to limit the number of postgraduate students, and it gives students more room to consider what it means when one's got ...

You always have adorable opinions, man. That is great.
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7楼: Originally posted by Coble at 2014-02-20 15:31:08
You always have adorable opinions, man. That is great....

Because I'm adorable
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7楼: Originally posted by Coble at 2014-02-20 15:31:08
You always have adorable opinions, man. That is great....

agreen with that
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Lopemann: 金币+1, You pay the press fee for me, alright? :p 2014-02-20 18:53:28
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6楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-02-20 14:23:35
I'm very happy to see this policy carried out.

Actually it's fairly effective to limit the number of postgraduate students, and it gives students more room to consider what it means when one's got ...

everytime, ur post is meaningful,maybe I can publish it as an article~~
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