| 查看: 5182 | 回复: 37 | |||||
| 本帖产生 3 个 ESEPI ，点击这里进行查看 | |||||
| 当前只显示满足指定条件的回帖，点击这里查看本话题的所有回帖 | |||||
Lopemann荣誉版主 (职业作家)
聽真那自由在奏鳴
|
[交流]
【Weekly Topic】Have you ever regretted being in a science degree?
|
||||
|
I know most people here are or were in a science degree. From the posts in this forum, I can see that studying science or being in a research position (master of philosophy, doctor of philosophy) is increasingly looking unattractive to a growing number of people in or out of the circle. It saddens people when the reality is research positions can be referred as to be over-competitive. People around me end up being in different industries, and irony is that most are not staying in research. People do high-school teaching, engineering, medicine, sales, and the law. Some even begin to pursue a career in business. Maybe scientific research comes to the top of the list when it comes to attrition rate. Nowadays it’s hard to people to get a tenure in universities. Normally the prerequisite is to be a Ph.D. Things get changed rapidly. I heard (maybe over-heard, anyway) that it’s no longer enough to get university lectureship if one’s only got a certificate without post doctor working experience. Therefore, people are going abroad in order to get something to decorate their CV. We can do a simple calculation, one gets into uni at 18, finishes undergraduate at 22, finishes master at 25, and finishes Ph.D at 28. By the time this person comes back there, he would have been at his/her 30’s. It can be seen as a long term investment, while the outcome is becoming more and more out of reach of “decent”. Yea it’s horrible when we find at our 30’s, we are not having a permanent position but being a contractor. Our family is in need of an umbrella while we always fail to provide it. I don’t know but maybe you guys can share something with us. [ Last edited by Lopemann on 2014-2-2 at 17:52 ] |
回复此楼» 猜你喜欢
面上函评意见出来了，像什么等级？
已经有15人回复
-
为什么资助数各大高校都创新高，自己申请怎么就这么难
已经有14人回复
-
在坚冰还盖着北海的时候，我看到了怒放的梅花。
已经有11人回复
-
小白求助 投论文要求的highlights应该如何写
已经有4人回复
-
麻烦专家们看看评委们的意见（F口面上）
已经有12人回复
-
怎么看青基中了没有啊
已经有6人回复
-
国社科又开始会评了，不知道这次命运如何
已经有11人回复
-
有多少人是今天查系统知道结果的？
已经有19人回复
-
基金未中，这种答复是模板吗？
已经有7人回复
-
哪位高人中了，把查询到的截图贴出来让我看看，让我长长见识
已经有7人回复
mac194
铁虫 (职业作家)
- ESEPI: 7
- 应助: 128 (高中生)
- 金币: 21401.3
- 红花: 101
- 帖子: 3332
- 在线: 3370.2小时
- 虫号: 2488597
- 注册: 2013-05-30
- 专业: 高分子材料的加工与成型
★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★ ★
Lopemann: 金币+15, ESEPI+1, Everyone should read your post. 2014-01-24 14:25:31
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-24 14:25:34
Lopemann: 金币+15, ESEPI+1, Everyone should read your post. 2014-01-24 14:25:31
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-24 14:25:34
|
(Uh... Thanks for re-positioning my post the other day. Maybe with luck this one would be, too) RE: "it’s no longer enough to get university lectureship if one’s only got a certificate without post doctor working experience." RESPONSE: My dad heard the same (while living outside the PRC) and responded by giving top seniors of his department lecturers for a year so they could all write that on their CV's ------------------------------------------------ RE: "it’s hard to people to get a tenure in universities. " RESPONSE: Did you know that many top Pharma companies (Pfizer, Merk,...) have "tenured" research positions? It might not be called "tenure" but the research staff in these companies are structured almost identical to universities ------------------------------------------------ RE: "Maybe scientific research comes to the top of the list when it comes to attrition rate." SHORT: Think twice before following the steps of another PostDoc-to-be COMPLETE: - See attached JPEG - See http://scforum.sciencecareers.org/viewtopic.php?t=9863 - Or just read the transcript: http://www.axs.tv/ui/inc/show_tr ... orts&en=808 ------------------------------------------------ FINAL THOUGHT: Be on the lookout for a in-forum message from me to you Or better yet since you are already a Forum Moderator, Lopemann, maybe you can write to me about starting either a Topic (or an entire new EMuch Section !!) titled "Alternative Career Choices" I'm not experienced (or tenured  ) enough to put either thought into action. Maybe together we can save a few souls from following conventional wisdom... What do you say?? PhDon't!.jpg |
12楼2014-01-24 14:05:49
2楼2014-01-22 09:15:29
Lopemann
荣誉版主 (职业作家)
聽真那自由在奏鳴
-
专家经验: +184 - ESEPI: 55
- 应助: 18 (小学生)
- 贵宾: 0.779
- 金币: 1112.7
- 散金: 2024
- 红花: 29
- 沙发: 2
- 帖子: 4528
- 在线: 597.3小时
- 虫号: 1932129
- 注册: 2012-08-09
- 专业: 应用数学方法
- 管辖: English Cafe
3楼2014-01-22 10:48:23
★ ★ ★ ★
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-22 16:55:07
Lopemann: 金币+4, Hey mate, you know what? We are in the same industry... 2014-01-22 16:55:26
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-22 16:55:07
Lopemann: 金币+4, Hey mate, you know what? We are in the same industry... 2014-01-22 16:55:26
|
本帖内容被屏蔽 |
4楼2014-01-22 16:31:29
30