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2Â¥: Originally posted by hank612 at 2013-10-03 12:25:44
I think your claim is not true. How about this example:

x2=1; y1=y2=y satisfy y^n > 3/2;  x1=y +1/4* (y-1)/(y^n-1).
then most important restrain:  2 y^n= ^n +1.

You may say that your claim  ...

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hank612

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I think your claim is not true. How about this example:

x2=1; y1=y2=y satisfy y^n > 3/2;  x1=y +1/4* (y-1)/(y^n-1).
then most important restrain:  2 y^n= [y+ 1/4*(y-1)/(y^n-1)]^n +1.

You may say that your claim only involves inequality, but equation really does not hurt. Think of continuity.
We_must_know. We_will_know.
2Â¥2013-10-03 12:25:44
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