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2楼: Originally posted by blue.wh at 2013-08-13 04:28:37
我从楼主的论据只能得到作者不细心的结论，并不能得到造假的结论，楼下的怎么看？
PS：我不是给原作找借口，如果仅仅因为这一处小的错误就说人家文章水或者造假，是不是帽子扣的太大了，懂化学的小伙伴来甄别下。

比较熟悉Dorta教授，非造假，主要是Emma同学太粗心，除了SI中的不细心，正文中也有careless的情况
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1. David  on August 8, 2013 10:14 AM writes...

I'm British and see no reason to use 'make up' to mean prepare in this case. It is true that 'make up' is sometimes used to mean 'prepare', but only in the sense of "I made up an NMR sample, by putting a solution in a tube". No-one 'makes up' data in the sense of 'preparing' an SI in British English, the only connotation in British English of 'making up' data is to invent it!

The kicker is the wording used by the author in the SI. If they had meant prepare, why not say "insert the NMR and EA data"? Why have two sentences to say the same thing? 'Make up' means 'invent' in this case.

This is indefensible, especially from a language argument.
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2. Anonymous  on August 8, 2013 10:48 AM writes...

Yup, another "British-English" here and I 100% agree with David's comments
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3. Winnie bluesky  on August 8, 2013 10:58 AM writes...

Even as a non-native but living in the UK, there is nothing one makes up in the lab except a solution in a volumetric flask (and that is making it up TO a certain volume) by diluting the stock...

5. Giles  on August 8, 2013 1:27 PM writes...

Another Brit agreeing that making something up almost invariably means faking it.

On the other hand, one of the funniest sketches in a UK comedy program called Brass Eye in the 90s involved persuading various unwitting celebrities to speak out against a non-existent drug called "Cake", which they were told was a "made-up" drug -- that is, it was synthetic. Questions were asked in Parliament... presumably "made-up" in the sense of synthetic was believable enough to the celebs that they were willing to use it in that sense and didn't immediately realise they were being trolled.

Rather NSFW (swearing) YouTube of the sketch here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0GxUxKZdHk
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6. Godfrey Bloom  on August 8, 2013 1:33 PM writes...

Perhaps he was asking Emma to put on some make up before getting the analysis done.
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对于此事，不知Dorta教授有没有回应？
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http://www.chemistry-blog.com/20 ... elemental-analysis/
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http://cen.acs.org/articles/91/w ... ata-Make-First.html
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可能不是造假呢。。。只能说太粗心了！
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没看出造假，一个词组有多重解释，为什么非要是不好的那个意思呢。英语本身也有地方性，我们所知道的意思也只有几种而已。就比如在我们一些地方的方言里有“不要信你了”，我们一般认为是不要相信你了，但在一些地方的意思却是“不要欺骗你了”。个人认为这也就只是作者和编辑的粗心罢了。
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