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纸鸢666

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[求助] 燃烧计算,先收敛后发散

我做加热炉的燃烧模型,计算过程中收敛的挺好,在收敛快结束的时候能量方程开始发散,然后出错终止。
我这个模型网格数多一点,有一百七十万,不知道跟网格数或者问题的复杂程度有关系吗?
请高手予以解答,感激不尽~~
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xiegangmai: 金币+1, 谢谢参与 2012-12-10 21:08:52
纸鸢666: 金币+3, ★★★很有帮助, 我试过了,不管用,还是谢谢啦,让我学到了一个小知识。 2012-12-17 18:18:06
在计算后期,fluent缺省采用多重网格计算,将多重网格设置为零可避免一些波长的残差在细网格上发生震荡和发散!希望对你有用
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臭水沟: 金币+1, 谢谢交流~~ 2012-11-28 10:00:47
把你的问题具体描述一下啊,比如你选的燃烧模型,PDF函数的设置
以及边界条件还有最后是哪方面出错
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纸鸢666

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2楼: Originally posted by 312367697 at 2012-11-28 09:11:24
把你的问题具体描述一下啊,比如你选的燃烧模型,PDF函数的设置
以及边界条件还有最后是哪方面出错

我用的软件是CFX,燃烧模型:涡耗散模型,边界条件是没有问题的,一开始收敛的很好,跑了三千多步,在能量方程的守恒目标达到0.05左右,残差早已达到10^-5的情况下(此时接近收敛结束),突然发散,下图是能量方程的残差曲线,从3350步开始的。
这种情况第一次遇到,请给点意见,谢谢~~

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xiegangmai: 金币+2, 谢谢参与 2012-11-28 22:03:31
纸鸢666: 金币+4, ★★★很有帮助 2012-11-29 08:42:03
用Fluent算过非预混燃烧,CFX还没试过,看看这个对你有没有用...
9.17.1. General Procedure for Running Simulations
For many cases, such as the Combustion Tutorial, the run can be started using automatic initial guesses for most fields and the choice of model in the first part of the tutorial, (EDM) is the most robust of the combustion models. If you are having trouble getting a complex problem to converge, the following steps may aid convergence:
Begin by specifying a single step reaction using the Eddy Dissipation Model.
For initial conditions, specify Oxygen with a mass fraction of 0.232 and set each of the other species to Automatic.
Allow the problem to converge to a reasonable level.
Restart the problem with Finite Rate Chemistry or Finite Rate Chemistry/Eddy Dissipation Model using the results from the previous problem as an initial guess.
Restarting the flamelet model from EDM does not work well because of the different model approach. This is because a previous EDM run would not provide mixture fraction mean and variance fields. Instead, it would be better to reduce the timestep for a few iterations.

Combustion introduces a strong coupling between scalars, energy and momentum. In difficult problems, you may find it helps to calculate a cold flow solution before turning on combustion.

In general for the Finite Rate Chemistry Model, the time scale of the combustion process is smaller, so you may have to continue with a smaller timestep to force the mass fraction and energy equations to converge. The time scale for the Eddy Dissipation Model is equal to the turbulence time scale (k/e).

In some cases, it may be appropriate to use a larger time scale for the mass fraction equations. This is particularly true when there are regions of small flow velocity in the domain. In these cases, the time needed to convect the components into all areas of the domain may be relatively large.
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huchunxia

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不知道有没有人用chemkin啊?想找个人交流一下。
在这里寻求志同道合的战友和相互扶持的盟友。
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4楼: Originally posted by 312367697 at 2012-11-28 16:49:32
用Fluent算过非预混燃烧,CFX还没试过,看看这个对你有没有用...
9.17.1. General Procedure for Running Simulations
For many cases, such as the Combustion Tutorial, the run can be started using ...

http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=5233724&fpage=1
能不能指点一下我的帖子,我就是用fluent非预混算柴油燃烧的
我要奋斗到底
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纸鸢666

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4楼: Originally posted by 312367697 at 2012-11-28 16:49:32
用Fluent算过非预混燃烧,CFX还没试过,看看这个对你有没有用...
9.17.1. General Procedure for Running Simulations
For many cases, such as the Combustion Tutorial, the run can be started using ...

谢谢指点,不过这些我以前在CFX的帮助文件里都看到过了
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5楼: Originally posted by huchunxia at 2012-11-28 19:03:05
不知道有没有人用chemkin啊?想找个人交流一下。

我用的,你用chemkin遇到过这种不收敛的情况吗?怎么办的呀
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9楼: Originally posted by Tracyxi at 2013-04-19 15:13:36
我用的,你用chemkin遇到过这种不收敛的情况吗?怎么办的呀...

没有遇到过,chemkin中没有画网格之类的,要是不收敛,调一下收敛判定,检查一下输入文件是否正确吧。
在这里寻求志同道合的战友和相互扶持的盟友。
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