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depends on what kind of counter ions you used in your precursors

It is not artificially to choose a certain kind of cations to "make" the charge balanced.  That's cheating.

Say it again, you got to do elemental analysis to determine the counter ions

Some groups manipulate the elemental analysis data, as far as I knew.
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3Â¥: Originally posted by wfmlover at 2012-07-23 09:38:43
Li, Na, K, Rb, Cs
depends on what kind of counter ions you used in your precursors

It is not artificially to choose a certain kind of cations to "make" the charge balanced.  That's chea ...

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If you can find out all the Na atoms that will be perfect.

But usually we can only find some of the Na atoms because Na and H2O are indistinguishable in the X-ray map.  It's not a big deal and still acceptable, but in this case you need to provide the elemental analysis data.
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