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What we calculated is the Basis Set Superposition Error (BSSE) that is an error occurring when you use a finite basis set to study, for example, a chemical reaction. In a tipical reaction you calculate the electronic structure of the reactants separately, let us say A and B, and then the electronic structure of the product, A+B. What happens in this case is that you are using different basis sets to represent the reactants in each step of the calculation. When you calculate the isolated reactant A, you use the basis set of A, and the electrons of A will be arranged spatially on these provided orbitals. However, when you put both systems together in the A+B, the electrons of A will have now a greater spatial freedom, since they can now occupy orbitals coming from B. The same happens with B. You have different basis sets to distribute the electrons of A in the two situations.
To correct this, you need to recalculate the energy of the isolated reactants (A and B) by considering the basis set of both reactants, i.e., the calculations of the isolated reactant A will now include the basis sets of B (without the system B itself). It needs to be done for each configuration that you take into account in the reaction of A+B. Now you will have the same basis set for the isolated reactants and the product.
You can look for more information searching for "counterpoise correction"
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Re: Re: [SIESTA-L] about basis-set superposition error (BSSE)

Abraham Hmiel Tue, 29 Mar 2011 21:51:07 -0700

"Should I set a ghost atom between the molecule and the nanotube ?"


No, this is what you must do:

You've already got the relaxed structure of the nanowire + adsorbed molecule
system, right? Let's call this system "A" and its total energy is E-A

You need 6 more calculations to complete the puzzle this is pretty much what
you should do:

1 calculation with the same k-point grid, mesh grid, and cell size as system
A, but only for the nanotube, fully relaxed to a similar tolerance as system
A. Find its total energy. Call this E-NT.

1 calculation with the same k-point grid, mesh grid, and cell size as system
A, but only for the adsorbed molecule, fully relaxed to a similar tolerance
as system A. Find its total energy. Call this E-AD

1 single-point calculation (0 CG steps) of the nanowire in the relaxed
geometry of system A (use the final .XV file or .xyz file or whatever you
want but remove the adsorbed molecule). Find its total energy. Call this
E-noghost-NT

1 single-point calculation (0 CG steps) of the adsorbed molecule in the
relaxed geometry of system A (use the final .XV file or .xyz file or
whatever you want but remove the adsorbed molecule). Find its total energy.
Call this E-noghost-AD

1 single-point calculation (0 CG steps) of the nanowire in the relaxed
geometry of system A, except replace any adsorbate chemical species with
ghost atoms. If you have species in the adsorbate that are present in the
nanowire, for example, a simulation of H2O on a hydrogen-passivated SiNW (or
C in methane on a CNT), then copy the H.psf file to a new file like
H_ghost.psf and then create a new chemical species H_ghost with atomic
number -1 and a different atomic species index. Replace any index of the H
in the adsorbate with the new index, and introduce a new basis set for
H_ghost that is identical to the one you used for H (except for the label
H_ghost). Find its total energy. Call this E-ghost-NT

1 single-point calculation (0 CG steps) of the adsorbed molecule in the
relaxed geometry of system A, except replace any nanowire chemical species
with ghost atoms and follow the procedure above if you have any species in
the adsorbate that are also present in the nanowire. Find its total energy.
Call this E-ghost-AD

The counterpoise correction is: (E-ghost-AD - E-noghost-AD + E-ghost-NT -
E-noghost-NT) call this E-CC. It should be a fraction of an eV, have a
negative sign and very sensitive to the adsorption site geometry. The BSSE
should _reduce_ the adsorption energy...

and the energy of adsorption is: E-NT + E-AD - E-A + E-CC

And that is how you do the counterpoise correction with SIESTA.

Best,
Abraham Hmiel

Katherine Belz Groves Graduate Fellow in Nanoscience, Xue Group
The College of Nanoscale Science and Engineering at SUNY Albany
"Clouds are not spheres, mountains are not cones, coastlines are not
circles,
and bark is not smooth, nor does lightning travel in a straight line." -
Benoit Mandelbrot

On Wed, Mar 30, 2011 at 12:09 AM, yf liu <liuyf1...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Dear Herbert Fruchtl:
>      thank you very much for your reply.  I have read the manual carefully,
> but find little message about the ghost atoms. the new question is: How can
> I use the ghost atom to correct the binding energy etc. ?  For example, I
> want correct the calculation about the molecule adsorption on the nanotube.
> Should I set a ghost atom between the molecule and the nanotube ?
>
> looking forward your reply.
>
> 2011/3/20 Wei Hu <gyrw4...@mail.ustc.edu.cn>
>
>>    I am sorry, I am a freshman about the siesta. The input is listed in
>> the following.
>>    My calculations about the binding energy do not meet the experimental
>> results,so,I have to check the ghost atoms calculations.Now,The impact is
>> acceptable.
>>    Another problem is how to get the chemical potential or total energy of
>> free C or N atom. Does it need to calculate the the ghost atoms affected by
>> the supercell?
>>
>> SystemName      C62N_ghost
>> SystemLabel     C62N_ghost
>> NumberOfSpecies         3
>>
>> %block ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>>  1   6   C
>>  2   7   N
>>  3  -6   Cg
>> %endblock ChemicalSpeciesLabel
>>
>> %block PS.lmax
>> C 1
>> %endblock PS.lmax
>>
>> %include coord.fdf
>>
>> PAO.BasisSize DZP
>>
>> #SolutionMethod   dm_on
>>
>>
>> SolutionMethod   diagon
>>
>> MeshCutoff          200.0000000     Ry
>>
>> #MD.TypeOfRun  Broyden
>> #MD.TypeOfRun  CG
>> #MD.NumCGsteps 500
>>
>> WriteForces
>>
>> MD.MaxForceTol 0.04 eV/Ang
>> #DM.UseSaveDM T
>>
>> MaxSCFIterations 100
>> DM.MixingWeight  0.1
>> DM.NumberPulay   6
>> #DM.MixingWeight 0.25
>> #DM.NumberPulay 0
>>
>>
>> SpinPolarized .true.
>> #FixSpin .true.
>> #TotalSpin 2.0
>>
>> WriteMullikenPop  1
>>
>> NetCharge  -1.0
>>
>> %block kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>>   2  0  0  0.0
>>   0  2  0  0.0
>>   0  0  2  0.0
>> %endblock kgrid_Monkhorst_Pack
>>
>>
>>
>> > -----Original E-mail-----
>> > From: "Herbert Fruchtl" <herbert.fruc...@st-andrews.ac.uk>
>> > Sent Time: 2011-3-18 20:06:46
>> > To: siesta-l@uam.es
>> > Cc:
>> > Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] about basis-set superposition error (BSSE)
>> >
>> >  From the energy part of the output alone we can't tell if the input was
>> > correct. You see a smallish difference and lower energy with the ghost,
>> which
>> > one would expect.
>> >
>> > Total energies are meaningless, and of course adding a few basis
>> functions won't
>> > change the total by a lot. You need to compare differences (like a
>> binding
>> > energy, as you indicated in your original post).
>> >
>> > In the example outputs below, the difference (in absolute energies) is
>> 0.09 eV.
>> > That's 2 kcal/mol or 9 kJ/mol. Depending on the interaction you are
>> looking at,
>> > this may or may not be negligible.
>> >
>> >    Herbert
>> >
>> > On 03/18/2011 02:00 AM, Wei Hu wrote:
>> > > Dear,the ghost atoms calculations seem to little effects on the total
>> energy from my results. Is there any wrong?
>> > >
>> > > My results about a nitrogen-vacancy center in bulk diamond C62N
>> (2*2*2):
>> > >
>> > > The results with ghost atoms:
>> > >
>> > > siesta: Program's energy decomposition (eV):
>> > > siesta: Eions   =     16680.576136
>> > > siesta: Ena     =      3653.202863
>> > > siesta: Ekin    =      7163.588024
>> > > siesta: Enl     =      -820.400928
>> > > siesta: DEna    =      -182.458272
>> > > siesta: DUscf   =        15.575306
>> > > siesta: DUext   =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Exc     =     -3054.613637
>> > > siesta: eta*DQ  =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Emadel  =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Ekinion =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Eharris =     -9905.679557
>> > > siesta: Etot    =     -9905.682781
>> > > siesta: FreeEng =     -9905.682783
>> > >
>> > > siesta: Final energy (eV):
>> > > siesta:       Kinetic =    7163.588024
>> > > siesta:       Hartree =     894.608032
>> > > siesta:    Ext. field =       0.000000
>> > > siesta:   Exch.-corr. =   -3054.613637
>> > > siesta:  Ion-electron =   -8393.758885
>> > > siesta:       Ion-ion =   -6515.506314
>> > > siesta:       Ekinion =       0.000000
>> > > siesta:         Total =   -9905.682781
>> > >
>> > > The results without ghost atoms:
>> > >
>> > > siesta: Program's energy decomposition (eV):
>> > > siesta: Eions   =     16680.576136
>> > > siesta: Ena     =      3653.202863
>> > > siesta: Ekin    =      7164.385562
>> > > siesta: Enl     =      -820.554764
>> > > siesta: DEna    =      -182.943454
>> > > siesta: DUscf   =        15.589130
>> > > siesta: DUext   =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Exc     =     -3054.694636
>> > > siesta: eta*DQ  =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Emadel  =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Ekinion =         0.000000
>> > > siesta: Eharris =     -9905.587400
>> > > siesta: Etot    =     -9905.591435
>> > > siesta: FreeEng =     -9905.591437
>> > >
>> > > siesta: Final energy (eV):
>> > > siesta:       Kinetic =    7164.385562
>> > > siesta:       Hartree =     894.861106
>> > > siesta:    Ext. field =       0.000000
>> > > siesta:   Exch.-corr. =   -3054.694636
>> > > siesta:  Ion-electron =   -8394.637153
>> > > siesta:       Ion-ion =   -6515.506314
>> > > siesta:       Ekinion =       0.000000
>> > > siesta:         Total =   -9905.591435
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original E-mail-----
>> > >> From: "Herbert Fruchtl"<herbert.fruc...@st-andrews.ac.uk>
>> > >> Sent Time: 2011-3-17 22:36:53
>> > >> To: siesta-l@uam.es
>> > >> Cc:
>> > >> Subject: Re: [SIESTA-L] about basis-set superposition error (BSSE)
>> > >>
>> > >> You can calculate counterpoise-corrected energies by specifying ghost
>> atoms.
>> > >> There is no way of doing counterpoise-corrected geometry
>> optimisations in SIESTA.
>> > >>
>> > >>    Herbert
>> > >>
>> > >> On 03/17/2011 01:57 PM, yf liu wrote:
>> > >>> Hello everybody,
>> > >>>
>> > >>> whether the basis-set superposition error (BSSE) is included in
>> siesta
>> > >>> calculation. when i calculate the molecule adsorption on carbon
>> nanotube, i
>> > >>> found the adsorption energy is some higher than the well know value.
>> how can i
>> > >>> add the BSSE in siesta calculation?
>> > >>>
>> > >>> yours
>> > >>> yufeng liu
>> > >>>
>> > >>
>> > >> --
>> > >> Herbert Fruchtl
>> > >> Senior Scientific Computing Officer
>> > >> School of Chemistry, School of Mathematics and Statistics
>> > >> University of St Andrews
>> > >> --
>> > >> The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland:
>> > >> No SC013532
>> > >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Herbert Fruchtl
>> > Senior Scientific Computing Officer
>> > School of Chemistry, School of Mathematics and Statistics
>> > University of St Andrews
>> > --
>> > The University of St Andrews is a charity registered in Scotland:
>> > No SC013532
>>
>>
>
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