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[交流] 请问tobermorite、jennite以及c-s-h的晶体结构

请问这三种物质的晶体结构是怎么样的?(注意:C-S-H和CSH是两个不同的概念)
请给出相应的文献出处。
能够直接提供相关文献下载、CIF文件等等那就更符合题意了,有可能得到所有的金币。
当然,我也不拒绝其他能够说明其晶体结构的方式,只要它是大家通用的,易于接受的。
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如果只想混点分,即便我很有爱,这也是不可能的,这样对认真回答他人问题的虫友很不公平。毕竟不能坏了小木虫互帮互助的规矩。
请有意者认真帮忙查阅一下相关资源,我暂时不方便上教育网,所以更加不方便。

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Tobermorite Mineral Data
Help on Axial Ratios: Axial Ratios:         a:b:c =1.5416:1:3.0832
Help on Cell Dimensions: Cell Dimensions:         a = 11.3, b = 7.33, c = 22.6, Z = 4; V = 1,871.94 Den(Calc)= 2.49
Help on Crystal System: Crystal System:         Orthorhombic - DisphenoidalH-M Symbol (2 2 2) Space Group: C 2221
Help on X Ray Diffraction: X Ray Diffraction:         By Intensity(I/Io): 14(1), 3.706(0.65), 3.001(0.45),1.835(0.35), 2.812(0.3), 5.5(0.25), 2.793(0.13),

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有详细数据。
jennite的晶体结构
Help on Axial Ratios: Axial Ratios:         a:b:c =1.4557:1:1.5046
Help on Cell Dimensions: Cell Dimensions:         a = 10.576, b = 7.265, c = 10.931, Z = 1; alpha = 101.3°, beta = 96.98°, gamma = 109.65° V = 769.89 Den(Calc)= 2.29
Help on Crystal System: Crystal System:         Triclinic - PinacoidalH-M Symbol ( 1) Space Group: P1
Help on X Ray Diffraction: X Ray Diffraction:         By Intensity(I/Io): 10.5(1), 2.92(0.8), 3.04(0.6),
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Bonaccorsi E , Merlino S , Taylor H F W , Cement and Concrete Research , 34 (2004) p.1481-1488, The crystal structure of jennite, Ca9Si6O18(OH)6*8H2O, Locality: Fuka, Japan


http://webmineral.com/data/Jennite.shtml

c-s-h的晶体结构
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Crystal structure of hillebrandite: A natural analogue of calcium silicate hydrate. (CSH) phases in Portland
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自己顶一个。
要金币有金币,要钱有钱哟(后者淘宝见……有意者站内信联系)
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Tobermorite Mineral Data
        Tobermorite
Download hom/tobermorite.pdf        

Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

Download am/vol84/AM84_1613.pdf        

American Mineralogist 84 (1999) 1613-1621

       

Tobermorites: Their real structure and order-disorder (OD) character

       

Sample: 9 Angstrom

       

11.156 7.303 9.566 101.08 92.83 89.98 C-1

       

atom     x      y      z  Uiso

       

Si1  .3859  .2158  .2234  .013

       

Si2  .3181 -.0193  .4343  .025

       

Si3  .3883  .6416  .2173  .015

       

O1    .390   .150   .377  .030

       

O11   .390  -.209   .371  .024

       

O2    .499   .663   .121  .024

       

O21   .502   .152   .136  .018

       

O3    .268   .649   .118  .013

       

O31   .267   .163   .133  .018

       

O4    .403   .441   .277  .022

       

O6    .179  -.040   .384  .041

       

OH6   .152   .488   .390  .050

       

Ca1  .3713  .0981 -.1040  .017

       

Ca2   .499   .460   .502  .035

       

Ca3  .3647  .5966 -.1175  .017

       

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        Tobermorite
Download hom/tobermorite.pdf        

Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

Download am/vol84/AM84_1613.pdf        

American Mineralogist 84 (1999) 1613-1621

       

Tobermorites: Their real structure and order-disorder (OD) character

       

Sample: 11 Angstrom

       

6.735 7.385 22.487 90 90 123.25 Bm

       

atom     x     y      z  Uiso

       

Si1  .7581 .3862 .15738 .0054

       

Si2  .9087 .7531 .07116 .0086

       

Si3  .7592 .9697 .15773 .0056

       

O1    .771 .5059  .0942  .014

       

O2    .759  .178  .1327 .0127

       

O3    .985 .5369  .1982 .0090

       

O4    .519 .3063  .1942  .012

       

O5    .894  .746      0  .017

       

OH6   .188  .893  .0940  .018

       

Wat6  .270  .434  .0939  .045

       

O7    .770  .860  .0951  .015

       

O8    .523 .8110  .1951  .011

       

O9    .987 .0459  .1985  .010

       

Ca1  .2651 .4328 .20557 .0085

       

Ca3  .7499 .9228 .29348 .0074

       

Wat1  .427  .219      0   .14

       

Wat2  .879  .237      0  .061

       

Wat3  .422  .800      0   .13

       

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        Tobermorite
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Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

         

European Journal of Mineralogy 12 (2000) 411-429

       

The real structure of clinotobermorite and tobermorite 9 A:

       

OD character, polytypes, and structural relationships

       

Sample: MDO2

       

11.156 7.303 9.566 101.08 92.83 89.98 C-1

       

atom     x      y      z occ Uiso

       

Ca1  .3713  .0981 -.1040     .017

       

Ca2   .499   .460   .502  .5 .035

       

Ca3  .3647  .5966 -.1175     .017

       

Si1  .3859  .2158  .2234     .013

       

Si2  .3181 -.0193  .4343     .025

       

Si3  .3883  .6416  .2173     .015

       

O1    .390   .150   .377     .030

       

O11   .390  -.209   .371     .024

       

O2    .499   .663   .121     .024

       

O21   .502   .152   .136     .018

       

O3    .268   .649   .118     .013

       

O31   .267   .163   .133     .018

       

O4    .403   .441   .277     .022

       

O6    .179  -.040   .384     .041

       

OH6   .152   .488   .390     .050

       

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        Tobermorite
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Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

         

European Journal of Mineralogy 13 (2001) 577-590

       

The real structure of tobermorite 11A: normal and anomalous forms,

       

OD character and polytypic modifications

       

Note: sample MD01

       

Locality: Wessels mine, South Africa

       

11.265 7.386 44.970 90 90 90 F2dd

       

atom     x     y     z  Uiso

       

Ca1  .0048 .9977 .1034 .0078

       

Ca3  .9984 .5009 .1026 .0074

       

Si1  .2500 .2900 .0790  .006

       

Si2  .1760 -.001 .0356  .008

       

Si3  .2518 .7077 .0789  .004

       

O1    .136  .263 .1006  .003

       

O1b   .138  .757 .0975  .007

       

O2    .620  .505 .1511  .011

       

O2b   .620  .003 .1541  .007

       

O3    .183     0     0  .017

       

O5    .251  .499 .0667  .010

       

O6    .248  .179 .0475  .019

       

O6b   .244  .824 .0476  .011

       

O7    .034  .007 .0457  .024

       

O7b   .996  .508 .0478  .044

       

Wat2  .692     0     0   .06

       

Wat3  .416  .298  .001   .06

       

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        Tobermorite
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Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

         

European Journal of Mineralogy 13 (2001) 577-590

       

The real structure of tobermorite 11A: normal and anomalous forms,

       

OD character and polytypic modifications

       

Note: sample MD02

       

Locality: Wessels mine, South Africa

       

6.735 7.385 22.487 90 90 123.25 Bm

       

atom     x     y      z  Uiso

       

Ca1  .2651 .4328 .20557 .0085

       

Ca3  .7499 .9228 .29348 .0074

       

Si1  .7581 .3862 .15738 .0054

       

Si2  .9087 .7531 .07117 .0086

       

Si3  .7592 .9697 .15773 .0056

       

O1    .771 .5059  .0942  .014

       

O2    .759  .178  .1327 .0127

       

O3    .985 .5369  .1982 .0091

       

O4    .519 .3063  .1942  .012

       

O5    .894  .746      0  .017

       

O6    .188  .893  .0940  .018

       

Wat6  .270  .434  .0939  .045

       

O7    .770 .8601  .0951  .015

       

O8    .523 .8110  .1950  .011

       

O9    .987 .0459  .1985  .010

       

Wat1  .427  .219      0   .14

       

Wat2  .879  .237      0  .060

       

Wat3  .422  .800      0   .13

       

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        Tobermorite
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Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

         

European Journal of Mineralogy 13 (2001) 577-590

       

The real structure of tobermorite 11A: normal and anomalous forms,

       

OD character and polytypic modifications

       

Note: sample MDO2 - conventional X-ray source

       

Locality: Bascenov, Urals, Russia

       

6.732 7.369 22.680 90 90 123.18 Bm

       

atom     x     y     z occ Uiso

       

Ca1  .2632 .4310 .2069     .011

       

Ca2   .559  .078  .044 .25 .035

       

Ca3  .7519 .9228 .2945     .009

       

Si1   .757 .3876 .1574     .007

       

Si2   .915  .756 .0710     .015

       

Si3   .758  .967 .1589     .007

       

O1    .754  .499 .0949     .018

       

O2    .772  .185 .1328     .014

       

O3    .992  .537 .1971     .011

       

O4    .523  .312 .1946     .015

       

O5    .898  .752     0     .017

       

O6    .197  .896 .0949     .018

       

Wat6  .237  .416  .097      .09

       

O7    .752  .853 .0972     .017

       

O8    .524  .807 .1962     .008

       

O9    .984  .045 .2002     .011

       

Wat1   .42   .26 -.020  .5  .13

       

Wat2  .922  .250     0      .07

       

Wat3   .40   .76 -.019  .5  .10

       

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        Tobermorite
Download hom/tobermorite.pdf        

Merlino S, Bonaccorsi E, Armbruster T

         

European Journal of Mineralogy 13 (2001) 577-590

       

The real structure of tobermorite 11A: normal and anomalous forms,

       

OD character and polytypic modifications

       

Note: MDO2 - synchrotron radiation source

       

Locality: Bascenov, Urals, Russia

       

6.732 7.369 22.680 90 90 123.18 Bm

       

atom    x     y     z occ Uiso

       

Ca1  .277 .4257 .2083     .024

       

Ca2  .562  .064  .045 .25 .038

       

Ca3  .763  .916 .2951     .027

       

Si1  .771  .383 .1578     .031

       

Si2  .925  .750 .0721     .030

       

Si3  .772  .962 .1596     .027

       

O1   .774  .495 .0932     .039

       

O2   .762  .169 .1305     .019

       

O3   .002  .527 .2000     .032

       

O4   .536  .304 .1926     .035

       

O5   .910  .747     0     .034

       

O6   .202  .887 .0942     .053

       

Wat6 .289  .436  .094     .076

       

O7   .769  .843 .0953     .027

       

O8   .537  .798 .1968     .036

       

O9   .004  .043 .2008     .034

       

Wat1 .433  .223 -.025  .5 .072

       

Wat2 .949  .256     0      .08

       

Wat3  .43   .77 -.022  .5  .09

       

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jennite的晶体结构
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        Jennite
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Bonaccorsi E, Merlino S, Taylor H F W

         

Cement and Concrete Research 34 (2004) 1481-1488

       

The crystal structure of jennite, Ca9Si6O18(OH)6*8H2O

       

Locality: Fuka, Japan

       

10.576 7.265 10.931 101.30 96.98 109.65 P-1

       

atom     x     y     z Uiso

       

Ca1  .0601 .3632 .3648 .059

       

Ca2  .4226 .7984 .3617 .056

       

Ca3  .0658 .8664 .3769 .061

       

Ca4  .4289 .2954 .3531 .061

       

Ca5      0    .5     0 .072

       

Si1  .8014  .942 .1939 .060

       

Si2  .7248  .241 .3748 .063

       

Si3  .7222  .673 .3784 .058

       

O1    .970  .024  .246 .051

       

OH2   .273  .962  .308 .069

       

O3    .588  .129  .423 .047

       

O4    .872  .318  .487 .057

       

O5    .742  .121  .246 .068

       

O6    .720  .747  .249 .060

       

O7    .701  .433  .331 .071

       

O8    .756  .859 .0409 .047

       

O9    .581  .658  .429 .055

       

O10   .866  .794  .480 .058

       

OH11  .273  .458  .303 .066

       

OH12  .985  .542  .230 .065

       

Wat13 .443  .193  .129 .086

       

Wat14 .542  .191  .863 .080

       

Wat1  .914  .143  .941 .079

       

Wat2  .781  .519  .964 .083

       

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C-S-H晶体结构

        Hillebrandite
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Dai Y S, Post J E

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American Mineralogist 80 (1995) 841-844

       

Crystal structure of hillebrandite: A natural analogue of calcium silicate

       

hydrate (CSH) phases in Portland cement

       

3.6389 16.311 11.829 90 90 90 Cmc2_1

       

atom    x     y      z occ  Uiso

       

Ca1     0 .2164   .064     .0137

       

Ca2    .5 .3992 -.0479     .0114

       

Ca3    .5 .0490  .1888     .0118

       

Si1  .430 .0863 -.1019  .5  .011

       

Si2    .5 .3727  .2134  .5  .008

       

OH1     0 .3091 -.0812      .014

       

O2     .5 .1259  .0198      .013

       

O3     .5 .4637   .138      .024

       

O4     .5 .2964  .1251      .019

       

O5      0 .4890 -.1123      .010

       

OH6     0 .1370  .2361      .013

       

O7   .364 .1328  -.205  .5  .014

       

O8      0  .110  -.127  .5  .014

       

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你这是GOOGLE随便复制粘贴来的吧?
太乱了——
而且tobermorite的结构是GOOGLE的第一条对吧?呵呵。我早用过GOOGLE了。

如果没有研究背景等等,直接GOOGLE的一个最大坏处是,可以得到很多很多信息,但不知道哪些信息是可靠的。
就好像你直接复制粘贴这么多内容上来,但我根本不知道哪些内容是比较权威的。

感谢你的辛苦复制粘贴!
但这样的回答真的得不到多少分——

理想的回答格式比如:
tobermorite:
一共有a种晶体结构
1.来自文献XXX
文献下载链接
对应CIF文件
2.来自文献XXX
文献下载链接
对应CIF文件
……

junite:
一共有b种晶体结构
……

C-S-H:
一共有c种晶体结构
……
引用回帖:
Originally posted by vjyong at 2009/9/21 09:04:
http://rruff.geo.arizona.edu/AMS/amcsd.php 搜索
http://rruff.geo.arizona.edu/AMS/result.php
Tobermorite Mineral Data
        Tobermorite
Download hom/tobermorite.pdf        

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