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kakumon

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[求助] 急!审稿人关于晶体解析的提问 已有1人参与

“- First of all, extracting the RES and HKL from the CIF with ShredCIF gives a checksum error, which is also detected by checkCIF (resulting in the level G alert N.O.K. _shelx_res_checksum found in CIF). This means that the data in the CIF have been accidentally or deliberately manipulated after the final refinement.

- Moreover, the weighting scheme used (WGHT    0.000000   20.000000) does not make a lot of sense to me and omitting a long list of reflections - obviously in hunt for a lower R factor - is by no means justified here. This is actually data manipulation.

- Refinement as inversion twin using TWIN and BASF parameters is not recommended in the absence of significant anomalous scattering. The Flack x parameter of 0.23(15) you report is not reliable and unrealistic for purchased enantiopure material. After a re-refinement against all data using the suggested weighting scheme results in R1 = 0.1053 and Flack 0.08(6).”

文章里有个晶体,本来测出来R值在0.09,我们觉得有点高,对数据进行了再次优化。这是审稿人提的问题。
然后审稿人认为我们处理有问题,数据可疑,测单晶的老师说,他觉对数据的优化没问题,是可以的,我不是专业的,不是很懂,这个审稿人提的问题合理吗?优化数据有问题吗?
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kakumon

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2楼: Originally posted by xwnail2003 at 2017-11-09 23:16:06
审稿人有道理,从精修的结果来看

这个精修的问题出在了什么地方?“OMIT”指令也是不允许使用的么?审稿人因为这个问题要拒稿。
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感谢参与,应助指数 +1
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3楼: Originally posted by kakumon at 2017-11-10 08:13:59
这个精修的问题出在了什么地方?“OMIT”指令也是不允许使用的么?审稿人因为这个问题要拒稿。...

omit可以用,他的意思是omitting a long list of reflections - obviously in hunt for a lower R factor,用了太多的omit命令,仅仅是为了追求较低的R值,这就不合理了,
然后后面修栾晶也不是很合理,
审稿人用了两次manipulation,认为你在篡改数据,这个问题很严重的
以大多数人的努力程度,还轮不到去拼天赋的地步
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4楼: Originally posted by 我想更懂你29 at 2017-11-10 08:57:19
omit可以用,他的意思是omitting a long list of reflections - obviously in hunt for a lower R factor,用了太多的omit命令,仅仅是为了追求较低的R值,这就不合理了,
然后后面修栾晶也不是很合理,
审稿人用 ...

谢谢,现在是不是只能重测了?
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