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10楼: Originally posted by tuqin2575 at 2014-01-23 17:33:21
In my afterlife or if I was provided by another chance, I may wanna be a free artist. HAHA. In my current life I have no talent for that.

I can feel you've got talent for art and arts.
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Lopemann: 金币+15, ESEPI+1, Everyone should read your post. 2014-01-24 14:25:31
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-24 14:25:34
(Uh... Thanks for re-positioning my post the other day.  Maybe with luck this one would be, too)

RE:
"it’s no longer enough to get university lectureship if one’s only got a certificate without post doctor working experience."

RESPONSE:
My dad heard the same (while living outside the PRC) and responded by giving top seniors of his department lecturers for a year so they could all write that on their CV's
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RE:
"it’s hard to people to get a tenure in universities. "

RESPONSE:
Did you know that many top Pharma companies (Pfizer, Merk,...) have "tenured" research positions?  It might not be called "tenure" but the research staff in these companies are structured almost identical to universities
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RE:
"Maybe scientific research comes to the top of the list when it comes to attrition rate."

SHORT:
  Think twice before following the steps of another PostDoc-to-be
COMPLETE:
  - See attached JPEG
  - See  http://scforum.sciencecareers.org/viewtopic.php?t=9863
  - Or just read the transcript:
      http://www.axs.tv/ui/inc/show_tr ... orts&en=808
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FINAL THOUGHT:
Be on the lookout for a in-forum message from me to you
Or better yet since you are already a Forum Moderator, Lopemann, maybe you can write to me about starting either a Topic (or an entire new EMuch Section !!) titled "Alternative Career Choices"
I'm not experienced (or tenured ) enough to put either thought into action.  Maybe together we can save a few souls from following conventional wisdom... What do you say??
【Weekly Topic】Have you ever regretted being in a science degree?
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Lopemann: 金币+4, Thanks, you've got better insights. 2014-01-24 14:44:56
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4楼: Originally posted by swallow13 at 2014-01-22 16:31:29
Well, I'm not a M.Phill or Ph.D, I'm a Pharmaceutical industry practitioner. So maybe I'm not in a science degree.  But sometimes I really regretted to work in this industry. All my lifetime is spend ...

Please don't take this the wrong way, but consider yourself lucky to be engaged in what is IMHO the noblest aspect of the pharmacy profession.  Compounding is fast becoming a lost art.  I've never witnessed it except on a small scale in Chinese Medicine Shop's


NOTE TO Lopemann:
In your message to me, briefly describe how you decided on becoming a pharmacist  The only attraction I see is that salary ramps up quickly and stays at that plateau throughout a pharmacist's career.
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00waterh: 金币+5, there will be a road 2014-02-23 21:29:19
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12楼: Originally posted by mac194 at 2014-01-24 14:05:49
(Uh... Thanks for re-positioning my post the other day.  Maybe with luck this one would be, too)

RE:
"it’s no longer enough to get university lectureship if one’s only got a certificate w ...

I'm feeling quite upset every time I heard about research's being over-competitive. But I have to admit that it's a sad fact widely acknowledged within this "industry"(sorry I really feel like referring research to as a industry, although it's not supposed to be)

I've still got some space to make a choice, to leave research or not (actually I can even choose whether to do Ph.D or not)

Abandoning my dream to be a research person clearly hurts me, but risks are real if I stick to it. I might just be led to a road without exit and no coming back.

I guess it's just being a comfort zone bias...?
Maybe I will do something else. Anyway.
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00waterh: 金币+5, you can do many other things, besides drug. 2014-02-23 21:37:51
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13楼: Originally posted by mac194 at 2014-01-24 14:23:56
Please don't take this the wrong way, but consider yourself lucky to be engaged in what is IMHO the noblest aspect of the pharmacy profession.  Compounding is fast becoming a lost art.  I've never w ...

Some time ago I was in a pharmacy degree, but later I transferred to a science degree (in my place pharmacy is not within science, which is a bit weird in other places). I'm doing medicinal chem & pharmacology stuff now. My supervisor strongly recommend me to go alone a research path, given that I've expressed my concerns over the surplus in this industry.

Having read more articles, stats, and your posts, my concern is raised up again

Having a specialty in drug knowledge, what can I do? (Pharmaceutical industry is downsizing, research positions are over-competitive)
Should I get another degree of Medicine...? I don't like it...
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Lopemann: 金币+3, I can imagine that... 2014-01-24 16:54:04
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17楼: Originally posted by swallow13 at 2014-01-24 17:02:51
Hey, Lope, I've got one suggestion for you: outstanding talent is always scarce....

It's what my supervisor told me...


You are my supervisor...?!
No wonder you got every question right...
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So far I am not sure what I can do except my present researching fields.
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Lopemann: 金币+1, I'm just kidding... 2014-01-27 12:48:24
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18楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-01-24 18:09:20
It's what my supervisor told me...


You are my supervisor...?!
No wonder you got every question right......

Wow, that cannot be happening...
Lucky boy!
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