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ellsaking(金币+1): 欢迎回帖交流 2011-02-15 17:34:52
发现自己原来的理解是有错误的,结合能不等价于内聚能
原来计算的都是内聚能
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zzy870720z(金币+2):谢谢补充 2010-11-13 11:56:30
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Originally posted by zzy870720z at 2010-11-12 22:06:54:
发现自己原来的理解是有错误的,结合能不等价于内聚能
原来计算的都是内聚能

版主原来的理解不一定是错的,因为结合能(Bing energy)在不同的科学领域其含义是不同的。详见
http://old.iupac.org/reports/1999/7110minkin/b.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_energy
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版主原来的理解不一定是错的,因为结合能(Bing energy)在不同的科学领域其含义是不同的。详见
http://old.iupac.org/reports/1999/7110minkin/b.html

[url]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bi ...

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ellsaking(金币+2): 谢谢补充~~ 2011-02-15 17:35:23
Binding energy - The difference between the total energy of a molecular system and the sum of the energies of its isolated p- and s-bonds. The value of binding energy depends upon the geometrical arrangement of the isolated subunits (molecules). According to another definition, the term to be substracted from the total energy is the sum of the energies of the separate atoms in the corresponding valence states, which compose the molecule. PAULING (1960).http://old.iupac.org/reports/1999/7110minkin/b.html
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ellsaking(金币+5): 谢谢补充,辛苦了 2011-02-15 17:35:41
Binding energy is the mechanical energy required to disassemble a whole into separate parts. A bound system typically has a lower potential energy than its constituent parts; this is what keeps the system together- often this means that energy is released upon the creation of a bound state. The usual convention is that this corresponds to a positive binding energy.

In general, binding energy represents the mechanical work which must be done against the forces which hold an object together, disassembling the object into component parts separated by sufficient distance that further separation requires negligible additional work.

At the atomic level the atomic binding energy of the atom derives from electromagnetic interaction and is the energy required to disassemble an atom into free electrons and a nucleus.

Electron binding energy is a measure of the energy required to free electrons from their atomic orbits. This is more commonly known as ionization energy.

At the nuclear level, binding energy is also equivalent to the energy liberated when a nucleus is created from other nucleons or nuclei[2][3]. This nuclear binding energy (binding energy of nucleons into a nuclide) is derived from the strong nuclear force and is the energy required to disassemble a nucleus into the same number of free unbound neutrons and protons it is composed of, so that the nucleons are far/distant enough from each other so that the strong nuclear force can no longer cause the particles to interact[4].

In astrophysics, gravitational binding energy of a celestial body is the energy required to expand the material to infinity. This quantity is not to be confused with the gravitational potential energy, which is the energy required to separate two bodies, such as a celestial body and a satellite, to infinite distance, keeping each intact (the latter energy is lower).

In bound systems, if the binding energy is removed from the system, it must be subtracted from the mass of the unbound system, simply because this energy has mass, and if subtracted from the system at the time it is bound, will result in removal of mass from the system[5]. System mass is not conserved in this process because the system is not closed during the binding process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binding_energy

大家可以对比一下,还是中文的好理解
电离能可以是电子结合能
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ellsaking(金币+3): 谢谢补充~ 2011-02-15 17:35:54
两个或几个自由状态的粒子结合在一起是释放的能量.自由原子结合为分子时放出的能量叫做化学结合能,分散的核子组成原子核时放出的能量叫做原子核结合能.

具体情况具体分析吧,结合能分好多种。
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ellsaking(金币+2): 欢迎回帖交流 2011-02-15 17:36:04
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Originally posted by wuli8 at 2010-11-13 13:39:01:
Binding energy - The difference between the total energy of a molecular system and the sum of the energies of its isolated p- and s-bonds. The value of binding energy depends upon the geometrical a ...

请问大侠为什么要减去孤立的p- and s-bonds的能量呢?还有在MS的帮助文件中对于cohesive energy的定义还引入了intra和inter energy,请问这种定义和上述Pauling给出的定义是否一致呢?
物质的本质是运动,运动的本质是能量
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