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[求助] SOS~! 一个难搞的审稿人

先说明一下情况。水凝胶材料，没有加入化学交联剂，文章名字用到了multi-physically cross-linking，就是在多糖在加一些其他东西，常规而平庸的制备（性质和已报道的相比确实不是很好），剪断后室温自愈很慢，需要给予温度（60度）刺激才能提高速度。具有自恢复，室温一小时不到能恢复。2000%左右断裂。不出意外，投稿后送审，四个审稿人。
首次受到审稿意见，其中三个人的意见中肯，修改就可以接收。第四个审稿审稿人意见贴上（前面部分原先没保留，反正就是拒稿的意思）：
In the preparation of hydrogel, the authors have described the use of APS. If I am not wrong, APS is a radical initiators in the polymerization of alkenes. It completely contradicts with their title, while "multi-physically cross-linking" is the major focus of this work. If a physically crosslinked polymer could be so stretchable, that would be really striking, if not revolutionary.
- I don’t think that the authors can call the materials self-healing, just as not calling them "without any chemical cross-linkers". It is a covalent network, thus stretchable, but not self-healing. If such a stretchable material can be self-healing, that will be really extraordinary.
- The authors did not describe what is the chemical basis of their polymer design in the introduction, which is also reflected by the vague synthesis scheme of figure 1A. In my view, these are serious problems, thus I would not suggest its publication.

response后提交后再次送审，三人接收，第四个依然有质疑，再次回复：
Although the authors have removed "Multi-physically crosslinked" in the title, the description of "physical, non-covalent interactions" appears many times in the article. There is certainly physical non-covalent interaction in the gel, as in any polymer system, but it is the covalent bonds making it stretchable, which is the major focus of this work. Moreover, self-healing, as a rheological term, does not mean that you cut a piece into two and can put them together. Self-healing, in rheology, means that a broken network can reform, and should be characterized by Rheometers such as continuous step strain measurements. It is very unlikely that the covalent network can be self-healing. Moreover, even according to their definition of self-healing, I would not call a recovery of property at 60 degree after 24 hours as self-healing.
ps：应对方要求补了流变，60℃下做的振荡（因为考虑到是在这个温度下进行的自愈），图谱也是常规那种自愈图谱。审稿意见中引了很多锁志刚、龚建萍、赵选贺这些大牛们的文章和工作作为辅证。也引入了一些用外力帮助自愈的文章合理化温度的刺激

response后，编辑只送了第四个审稿人，对方也再次回复：
I still think that most of the mechanical features of the materials are from the covalent network. The gel is also highly stretchable, while the improvement upon adding the Q component can also be achieved by tuning the SMA and AA ratio and concentration. The only benefit of adding gum is to improve the conductivity. However, the authors have not performed any thorough impedance measurements. （整篇文章没有什么涉及和电相关的东西，只不过在最后加上了一些wearable sensor的内容）
The new continuous step strain measurements, which were performed at 60 degree, in my opinion, prove that the stretchable material is NOT self-healing. (I assume that the same recovery could not be measured at room temperature). You cannot perform the stretching experiment at room temperature and the self-healing experiment at 60 degree, which are two different materials. Other people's misleading claims cannot be a justification.
弄来弄去。我自己都懵了，不知道该如何去应付这个人。特别是“Other people's misleading claims cannot be a justification.”（都是锁志刚、赵选贺之类的大牛。。。）直接推翻了这个领域的一切。。。上次审稿意见中写了那么多，说了那么多，到头来还是“I still think that most of the mechanical features of the materials are from the covalent network.”这东西，连实验都不好证明。
吐槽归吐槽，对于这个审稿人，真的很无力，只能老老实实的补上室温的流变，室温的自愈的照片。其他的部分，回复再多感觉也是没用的，审稿人已经有自己认为的那一套了，很难再听进去什么。

有没有虫友有类似经验，给些建议什么的，在这谢谢了。

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