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[交流] A fight against Genetically Modified Food

I changed to silent mode for quite sometime and recently a topic from emuch caught my attention.
It is about one guy is ready to sue another but the background is the two people had an to and from argument about GM food.

And as expected, lot of fans supporting the two guys started a chaos then, and I encountered the quarrel with no choice.

I have no mean to start another war here in English Cafe, that once I have several friends in my good memory.
But I want to state crystal clear my opinion against GM food.

The new technology to modify DNA of food and time seems never enough to proof if it is harmless, and for the risk may carry forward to centuries, I suspect why US government allow enterprise to export GM food to other countries, no responsibility ? if it is harmful, it will not hurt America ?

Wrong!! if it is harmful, it will be too late when we find the answer, and if it is harmful, the whole planet will suffer.

And I doubt what motivated the people endlessly promoting GM food, I guess it is a matter of money.

Can we trust US technology from experts ?
When Telfon is first announced seventy years ago, we all said this is the best product, now we knew Telfon will trigger cancer in human body.

Nowaday we face H5N1, H7N9...etc, I think we played too naughty already. DNA is not a playground. We are not supposed to sacrifice for experiment of GM food safety test.
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Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-17 18:42:56
Lopemann: 金币+8, ESEPI+1, I like your last paragraph, Detective Swallow. 2014-01-17 18:43:35
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4楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-01-17 16:32:45
Hey Detective, you support GM food or go against it?...

Well, I like traditional food but I don't against GM food, it's not about safety, just because I miss old time and old flavor. Actually I support GM food in some sense. I don't know how many people here know how to grow crops, as I know, the crop pests have a growing resistance against pesticide. So farmers had to use more and more pesticide. That cause a serious pollution of not only food, but also soil and water. Many people against GM food said that the toxicity of GM food has not been proved, the GM food is harmful, like lz said. That really made me laugh out loudly. The said that you have to eat GM food for over forty years to prove the safety. Well, I'm a lab researcher work in a R&D laboratory of new drug. Do these guys really know how a toxicity study is carry out?  Have they read the technical data and detail seriously? Or do they really know the meaning of a toxicity study report?
Actually they don't care, people in nowadays are more and more impulsive, fickleness and impetuous. The don't care about the details, the just want to vent their frustrations through abuse. They never tried to find the cause from their own. I'm very anxious about this.

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Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-17 19:14:25
Lopemann: 金币+5, Good point to make. 2014-01-17 19:14:56
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4楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-01-17 16:32:45
Hey Detective, you support GM food or go against it?...

Not a problem at all if it is only personnal attitude, you can make your own decision whether or not to take the risk, but someone else has his publicity and advertise the GM food has been PROVED harmless, then that is a problem.

I am not in the profession to say anything, but I doubt if 40 years is good enough to prove GM food is harmless or free of subsequences.

the DNA of human may take centuries to breakthrough changes, good or bad, perhaps we ignore it as we won't eye-witness it. Perhaps earth goes ruined before that take place.
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Lopemann: 金币+8, ESEPI+1, Thanks, MM. 2014-01-18 19:53:50
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-18 19:53:53
I think the enormous economic benefits and the ambition of the weird country, US, can be the major motivation in exporting GM food. I have seen some scientific fiction films with my BF. And for many times I was perplexed by the behaviors that the governments or the so-called top scientists could treat science and technology as a game, disregarding the moral problems or human being's future. As the population worldwide is growing and the farming labors may be decreasing in the countries typically such as China, the need for food is urgent, so the market is incalculable. GM food are produced with less cost, less water, using less labors and consuming less energy maybe, thus they are efficient in fulfilling the increasing demand in the market. But the basic function of food is to be healthy. To provide enough calories comes second, proper nutritions the third, and to meet all the requirements with less cost comes the last, I think. And to expand and to export GM food to other countries with no healthy proof is just to take the branch for the root. Moreover, it is irresponsible to the users, especially to the offsprings in these areas. Science is not so universal as expected . Anything too advanced may not be good. We have to obey the natural rules, and do not hurry in some fields.
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Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-19 07:47:06
Lopemann: 金币+8, ESEPI+1, Good concern. 2014-01-19 07:47:33
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3楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-01-17 16:32:16
I personally support GM food.
Loads to say, but I don't want to reiterate.

I have much better feeling here in English Cafe, we just express our opinion peacefully, and no gunman to track every post to try overcome you.

As I mentioned, the majority of our society take words from experts unconditionally, they are young and naive, the experts promote this GM food agressively and think this is soluton for tomorrow world and every precaution  taken to prove its safe, it is based on experiments they can think of, and if successful, who is the beneficy? who will be in heaven? If fail, who will lose, who will be in hell?

During electronic product design, we employ an important step before the product ship out of factory, it is called accelerated life test, extreme environmental factors re set to push the time bombs show up before hand, but even though such testas been applyed and zero failure, there may still failure from end user even much lesser.

but for GM food, can we accept very minor failure after extreme long time? I don't think so.

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Lopemann: 金币+2, I don't know why people think it should take decades to prove GM food's being safe, despite post market review is constantly been employed. 2014-01-19 13:46:51
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I think GM food is completely OK.

Our soy bean industry is crashing under the import of huge amount of the GM soy bean.
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Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-01-19 13:51:28
Lopemann: 金币+3, Thanks for sharing! 2014-01-19 13:51:40
I am not able to say which is good. The hazard research on food and medicine is always slower than the new food or medicine. This is which I feared. So I perfer to have the tradition food! When the research can prove that the Gene food is quite safe, I will choose it. But really, I don't know who is right between these two parties.
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Lopemann: 金币+2 2014-01-19 16:36:49
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14楼: Originally posted by Lopemann at 2014-01-19 13:52:44
I don't know why people still say the safety issues of GM food are yet to be confirmed when FDA has already approved of it....

If FDA approval means everything then yes,  but let us look back the GM food history,  and ask how many human generations need to be tested until we agree it is safe?
Use same criteria for mediine approval? ten or twenty years? You think this is enough for DNA things?

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i don't know weather GM food is harmless or not, but personally i don't like the women with fake breasts.
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I personally support GM food.
Loads to say, but I don't want to reiterate.
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2楼: Originally posted by swallow13 at 2014-01-17 16:19:39
Too young too naive.

Hey Detective, you support GM food or go against it?
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7楼: Originally posted by 00waterh at 2014-01-18 14:06:13
i don't know weather GM food is harmless or not, but personally i don't like the women with fake breasts.

Why? How do you connect those two things together? I cannot find anything in common between them.
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