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40楼: Originally posted by 海边的黎明 at 2013-11-04 17:03:20
Certainly,  I  am   favour  of  the   policy  change....

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curton: 金币+4, is not it better if oral English assessment is introduced in our English testing system 2013-11-30 18:28:11
In my mind .l am really like english ,especially oral English .l would catch each time to practise my spoken English .Now the policy changed the proportion of  English grade in the national higher entrance examination ,we can have  more time to speak English without worrying the examination .
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42楼: Originally posted by 乔晓宁 at 2013-11-04 17:19:15
In my mind .l am really like english ,especially oral English .l would catch each time to practise my spoken English .Now the policy changed the proportion of  English grade in the national higher en ...

Yea, but is not it better if oral English assessment is introduced in our English testing system?
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curton: 金币+4, Good on your having the same opinion as I do 2013-11-30 18:08:32
Lopemann: 回帖置顶 2014-02-13 16:26:52
In order to keep the pace of modernization and development in China, especially in some first-line cites, such as Shanghai、Guangzhou, you have to enhance your English level, both oral and listening capability so on so that you will not be denied in your interviews in the first round.
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44楼: Originally posted by hualicc at 2013-11-10 20:35:17
In order to keep the pace of modernization and development in China, especially in some first-line cites, such as Shanghai、Guangzhou, you have to enhance your English level, both oral and listening  ...

Couldn't agree more

Improving students' English level is something of great urgency.
It's just there seems to be something odd about our reform direction.
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44楼: Originally posted by hualicc at 2013-11-10 20:35:17
In order to keep the pace of modernization and development in China, especially in some first-line cites, such as Shanghai、Guangzhou, you have to enhance your English level, both oral and listening  ...

Good on your having the same opinion as I do

Click "like" to your comment.
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curton: 金币+6, English for non-English background speakers is basically a tool, and yes, ideas matter more than the tool itself 2013-11-30 18:28:35
in my opinion, english is just a tool of communication. the more important thing is the idea,not the tool. i myself have some interests in english, just because i have to for sake of the requirement of my job.
however, we all see that even 3-year-old children are having english class now！ on the other hand, most graduate students cant finish a flawless chinese article！
what a pathetic situation！
i blame it for gaokao-english, cet4,and cet6, partially.
i blame it for emphasis on english of this ridiculus education environment.
you all advocate for english should feel guilty about this new foreign BaGu.
furthurmore, it ruins the foundation of our cultrlure and the unity of the nation.

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curton: 金币+15, ESEPI+1, English for non-English background speakers is basically a tool, and yes, ideas matter more than the tool itself 2013-11-30 18:28:49
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47楼: Originally posted by yinglibme at 2013-11-10 23:00:57
in my opinion, english is just a tool of communication. the more important thing is the idea,not the tool. i myself have some interests in english, just because i have to for sake of the requirement  ...

Wow

Yes, English for non-English background speakers is basically a tool, and yes, ideas matter more than the tool itself. The problem is we don't seem to get good command of the so-called tool, do we?

Three-year-old Children are having English class, which is the result of competitions, not English. For some primary schools, especially the good ones, they need some criteria to filter candidates, and English is just one of the criteria, not all. I believe for some primary schools, Chinese or mathematics is also one of these criteria. As for me, a 3-year-old child's studying Chinese or mathematics in kindergarten is no less ridiculous than he or she's studying English in kindergarten.

One's first twelve years should be free of worries and assessments, as far as I am concerned.

I believe most graduate students could not describe an event or even a book detailedly in English. When it comes to speaking, an overwhelmingly majority of people are not equipped with the fundamental English ability to finish daily conversation. Compared with failing to write a flawless Chinese article, which situation is more urgent?   

Chinese is our mother language and it deserves our attention. I agree to you with regard to statements related to this. For College English Test, I believe those who fail to receive a good mark in Chinese won't say they spend all the time studying Chinese on English, right?

If one doesn't even have an ability to pass CET6, how could this person handle English journal articles when he begins to do research which range from education, psychology to natural science. Many people in university don't study English, but is it true that their Chinese is strikingly better than others?

As for the root of culture, I know many people from Hong Kong and Taiwan. Their English is way better than mainland Chinese counterparts, and their Chinese knowledge is remarkable. Then is it really English that ruins our culture?

Last, not the least, no one is supposed to feel guilty for his or her opinion. It's one's free freedom to have his or her say, and it also works for you. You are free to have your say here and I respect your opinion. Respecting other's opinions is a symbol of modern civilization, and Traditional Chinese culture won't teach people to ruin it, will it?

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