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谁负韶华

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[求助] 两道证群不同构的题,求解啊!

1.Prove that An×Z2 is not isomorphic to Sn when n≥3.
2.Show that SOn×Z2 is not isomorphic to On when n is even.
最近看近代,表示这一类证明不同构的题不怎么会啊!求指导,最好是英文版的解答!多谢了!

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3楼: Originally posted by hank612 at 2013-08-19 00:32:47
you may use the information of center group to prove the first.

It is known that Sn only has trivial center (when n>=3), this you can see from the conjugation action on the generating set (1k) ...

第一题我能用 identity element 来证明么?推出两群间的映射不是injective?

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感觉你这个结论有问题啊;
第一题 两个好像是同构的啊;
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谁负韶华: 金币+5, ★★★★★最佳答案 2013-09-24 20:31:42
you may use the information of center group to prove the first.

It is known that Sn only has trivial center (when n>=3), this you can see from the conjugation action on the generating set (1k) k=2,...,n.
(1k)^phi = (1^phi k^phi).

but An X Z2 has nontrivial center, at least Z2 is in the center. (when n=3, the whole group is abelian). So no isomorphism.

O_n (when n is even) has center I and -I. (you need to prove this, though I cannot come up a simple proof). but both these two elements belong to SOn. Therefore if On is isomorphic to SOn X Z2, then its center is at least (I, -I) X Z2, has four elements. which is not true.

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2楼: Originally posted by zenmebuxing at 2013-08-18 23:43:39
感觉你这个结论有问题啊;
第一题 两个好像是同构的啊;

不,第一题不同构的。

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