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The referee asks whether the divisions of the FACS dot plots are determined by statistical method, which has sufficient numerical confidence. The answer is: YES, they're in accordance with 3¦Ò rule, and the unilateral confidence level is 99.86%; two-dimensional distribution confidence level is 99.72%. Taking Fig. S3 B, C, C-Q1, C-Q2, C-Q1 for example, detailed discussion is below.

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In our experiments, the FACS instrument¡¯s gain and threshold parameters are adjusted into appropriate values, which make most of the cells¡¯ scatter points in tristable conditions be suitably distributed between upper bound and lower bound. These adjustable instrument parameters are then fixed for all the subsequent experiments. After that, ¡®dark¡¯ (both-lowly expressing) cell culture is the reference to determine the divisions of Q1Q2-Q3Q4 and Q1Q3-Q2Q4, as shown in Fig. 3B (Figure R 21). For example, the vertical division between Q1Q3 and Q2Q4 is determined at the position where 99.86% points are on its left, according to 3¦Ò method.

In other words, ¡®dark¡¯ state population should be in the left side of this vertical divison with a confidence level 99.86% (confidence coefficient P=0.9986; notice these are all unilateral distributions, while in bilateral case P=0.9973). The same criterion is also applied to the horizontal division. Hence, overall the ¡®dark¡¯ state population should be in Q3 region with a confidence level 99.86%*99.86% = 99.72%.

These two divisions are determined for all the following FACS plots (e.g. Fig. S3C, C-Q1, C-Q2, C-Q1, and etc.), to discriminate whether a scatter point is belong to ¡®dark¡¯ state with a confidence level 99.72%.
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