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SMCSDK

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对jqwhy删除俺的系列没意见，谁让俺懒惰哪。只是觉得有些资源可能对其它虫虫有用，不知能否有人整理加入title和preface后再给没机会下的虫虫看看。还有，有个金虫叫choscar认为只有E-books才能共享的观点我不敢苟同，我认为只要有用即可。详见“资源、学习、斑竹、删贴、扣分之我见”。
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51楼2006-02-20 14:53:51
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52楼2006-02-20 16:04:20
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choscar

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1. I disagree with you! You said that "请注意我发的都是电子书，不是文献啊".  I also am very very welcome to get excellent notes such Advanced Organic Chemistry By Evans and Organmetallic from White (Harvard),  Index, handbooks. It may be too heavy to share a lot excellent 论文 和文献 (plenty of papers from Science & Nature, Chem. Rev.) in each post. In most cases, no one explain why so excellent?
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看看国外的博士论文不比你看E-books差啊

Most people just said -"牛书" without any explanation. The questions are: Have you read these 论文 you posted? Why you posted these 论文? How important? Why not post theses from Evan, Corey, Nicholas, Trost, Jacosen...牛research groups?? I have read several theses from Barry Trost (stanford). Very good summary in some chapters becomes review papers!! Thus,
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"I suggest 版主开专贴 to collect VERY VERY GOOD 文献论文. 如"化学版内 Rapidshare 资源整理完毕！大家可以下载了!  [It is better for 版主关闭"评价帖子"作用!! Otherwise, it seems to me 版主 become more and more rich from other虫虫工作. We just collect all good stuff.] 虫虫介绍/推荐 REALLY VERY VERY GOOD 文献论文 in every three month or ever year (Quarter/Year of the Papers). Don't just put to the forum without good comment!! 版主 can reward money to good and the best 推介. "

(http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=186669&fpage=1)     

BTW, some replied 虫虫 want Wiley E-Books most!
http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=186669&fpage=1&highlight=

2. I have no intention against you. Many redunadant posts can be found recently. For me, your case is too obvious and what you did is go too far away. If you posted one, then I did not noticed. However, you posted about 19 posts at the same time. Most of the posts are 论文 from not famous research groups.  Did not explain why theses 论文 meaningful for 虫虫 to download.  Some were even shared before!!! You claimed "请注意我发的都是电子书，不是文献啊". Some 虫虫 need to pay network to download. I know/experience that the time to upload is much longer than that to download. Please specify the detailed information of the resources, reasons, you provide, so that the others can selectly download the useful one.

3. I agree. Sometimes, it is not a fault for us, but 全文搜索!!! Thus, I just suggested to 删贴 is fine!!
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全文搜索是有必要的，但没搜索到不应扣分，可以删贴。检索能力不等吗。

4. 化学◎资源共享版版规:
"本版所发包含附件的帖子必须为书籍或课件类帖子，不接受整本杂志或者文献；含多个附件帖子所分割的附件大小要为2048KB（最小的附件除外）否则视情况作不加分或扣分处理"
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4.一口气上传多少是没有限制的，也不应做什么必须精华的过滤，还是那句话，只要对一个虫子有用，就不枉上传一次。其实上传很累的，我一次搞了20多个系列，用了一天时间（可能心情好当时）。可能我不见得今后向现在这样发了，工作忙啊。

5. Carey's Advanced Organic Chemistry is a very good reference. I used many money to buy 3rd Ed. A & B. 4th Ed. have been released very soon after I bought (so poor)! This is a textbook for one of my PHD course. I sometimes read for my research.  If you have money, buy orignal book - classical books!

6. I agree!
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To make 化学◎资源共享版 better, systematic organization and management should be important. It is better to see other big 论坛. I guess the situation right now is that most of 虫虫 is "快闪客". 化学◎资源共享版 freely provide many good and expensive E-books and Handbooks. It attacts many 新虫 to come to get. However, most 虫虫 might not be willing to contribute 化学◎资源共享版. Sometimes, 虫虫 even blame the "serious" sharer. However, I imagine that one day when no much resource here, then they will not come.

  For example, 版主wangyulnu opened a vote "关于建设小木虫化学工具书电子查询系统的设想". I voted 无所谓. (http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=184680&fpage=6)
The idea is good, but workload is very large and I don't think many people will really contribute. At first, no much 虫虫 repsonsed!! After 版主 rewarded money, many people give commnet - just for money!!!!! How many 虫虫 will finally follow this plan??????   

  I will try to help 版主 about Wiley E-Books. I am relatively familar with Wiley E-Books after I 整理 "☆☆虫虫必看化学版专帖!!整理论坛内Wiley化学电子书的全部快速下载地址☆☆" (http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread. ... JGokIF#pid1179167).

  Hope the story will end soon and put all time and energy to contribute 化学◎资源共享版!!!!

(http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=188066&fpage=1)
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我建议我们不要只盯下载资料，要多讨论具体问题，才有提高。这也是小木虫的弱势。一不小心，又长篇大论，我这个懒惰的家伙又勤奋一回呀。

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Originally posted by SMCSDK at 2006-2-20 02:53 PM:
对jqwhy删除俺的系列没意见，谁让俺懒惰哪。只是觉得有些资源可能对其它虫虫有用，不知能否有人整理加入title和preface后再给没机会下的虫虫看看。还有，有个金虫叫choscar认为只有E-books才能共享的观点我不敢苟 ...

[ Last edited by choscar on 2006-2-20 at 20:58 ]
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53楼2006-02-20 19:43:21
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choscar

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版主faunhelf,
  I think it is not your fault in some sense. However, deleted the repeated post. If possible, correct the tiltle for the original post!! Thanks!
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54楼2006-02-20 20:50:36
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SMCSDK

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choscar A funny kind guy

你的外语不错啊（在国外吗，搞个盗版的中文OS多好，在坛子上发贴容易啊），我同意你的意见，有时我说话不严谨，只是图省事，我发的资料有些是seminar 或 disstertation 的东东。我对我发的东西看的不多，只是有时瞄一眼，感觉不错就发了。自己只是经常去那些国外大牛的website转转，有时下些东东（我也是crazy collector）自己哪有时间和精力都看。我买的是DB的carey, 花费我人民币200大元（上下册）还算值。我真希望国内有哪个牛人写本人人都懂的高等有机，深入浅出，别来那些写书人自己都看不懂的东东。有时间交流一下学习有机的心得。
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55楼2006-02-20 21:18:38
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choscar

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jqwhy(金币+1):我搜索了 他这个不算重复吧 谢谢支持
jqwhy:
Several 虫虫 shared this book before via 56.com or hyperlink

Today post
http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=188566&pid=1254741&page=1&sid=W6gw04#pid1254741

Search result
http://search.qihoo.com/usearch. ... p;bgwb=&btable=
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choscar

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I am confused. Can you tell me why??? So that every one will not violate the rule!! Thanks!
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Originally posted by choscar at 2006-2-20 09:35 PM:
jqwhy:
Several 虫虫 shared this book before via 56.com or hyperlink

Today post
http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=188566&pid=1254741&page=1&sid=W6gw04#pid1254741

...

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jqwhy

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没有主题贴提供这本书，只有56.com共享，没有直接把书籍传到论坛；
所以不算他重复
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choscar

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Even someone provide a rapidshare link in your post " 化学版内 Rapidshare 资源整理完毕！大家可以下载了！"?? If so, it is better to let the others know this situation clearly! Thanks!
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Originally posted by jqwhy at 2006-2-21 09:51 AM:
没有主题贴提供这本书，只有56.com共享，没有直接把书籍传到论坛；
所以不算他重复

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choscar

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Repeated post
zhangquee posted Wiley E-Book "THE CHEMISTRY OF HETEROCYCLIC COMPOUNDS：THE PYRAZINES"
In fact, I have posted three Wiley E-Book2 "THE CHEMISTRY OF HETEROCYCLIC COMPOUNDS Series. Based on 化学◎资源共享版版规
"并且同一主题最好发在同一帖子内，这样既不影响大家浏览的兴趣也不会破坏版容，同时斑竹也好评价"
http://muchong.com/bbs/viewthread.php?tid=174153&fpage=1&highlight=

It is not his fault or my faullt.
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