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一封美国大学的拒信——中国人不道德,不诚信,欺骗,将来不录取中国学生!

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Dear xxx:

I would like to inform you of the situation relevant to Chinese graduate students here, at least at our department, which makes it very difficult for us to accept graduate students from China in the future.

Over about one year period, we have had 6 Chinese Ph.D. students quit their
RAship and Ph.D. studies. The reason for them to leave was not that they
could not continue, it was rather because they want to have a job now (a higher salary, with a hope that the companies will apply for their green card status. They came with thier promises to pursue their Ph.D. degrees, we paid tuition for them to take courses for their Master degree, and we taught and helped them in their research capabilities. Once they got their M.S. degree in Mechanical Engeering, because of the excellent job market in the U.S. at this time, it is relatively easy for them to find a job. In a way we felt that we were used as a step for those Chinese students to come here, and get their master's degree, then get their jobs. We pay approximately $45-50 K/year for each Ph.D. student, including the tuition, health insurance, various fees, lab and computer fees, and monthly salary, we also put a lot of time and efforts for them. They (most of them) also did good research work as assistants. However, we don't get credit because we don't produce PH.D's, which is one of our major purposes as an institution of high education. On the other hand, they have their particular interests which are also understandable, for example, financial pressure, and wishes to have their green card applications on the way asap.

This situation also happened to my Chinese Ph.D.student. He is very talented and did a good job in research. However, after he got his M.S. in M.E., he resigned very recently. We still let him stay here presently (with salary) for one more month, otherwise he will have to repay his tuition, which is over $10K. Although we are very considerate for those students, the consequences are obvious:

(1) It greatly degraded the reputation of Chinese graduate students who
apply for admission. Some professors address those as "very unethical", "you
really cannot trust them when they promise you to pursue their Ph.D. degrees; under your supervision", " you feel you are so stupid as cheated by your own student". It really created some resentment. Actually, I know, as of this time, there are a couple of more students looking for a job or already got a
job offer, but not telling their advisors. They will quit at the last minute before they leave. This situation will certainly get backfired, and the damage will mostly be transferred onto the future applicants from China.

(2) Some professors or research scientists have already made their decisions not to consider Chinese student applications. Although it should not and cannot be a policy, it is the individual's decision in selecting future. Ph.D. students with preference, and in my opinion, with good reasons. It will make it much more difficult for us to bring in Ph.D. students from China. For example, as you know, I was looking for one or two Ph.D. students later this year, and I have a vacancy for a Ph.D. student now. But I will not consider Chinese applicants. At the same time I feel truely sorry, for I know, especially many graduate students from Tsinghua University of very high qualifications sent email applications to me (and to other professors), including yourself. Now I have to inform you that please try your applications elsewhere, or other professors.

In our department, many Chinese graduate students know me and we have a very friendly relationships. The faculty members know that too. One told me: "You try to help them, then they screw you up!" I spent time to write this email message, for your information and considerations, as to how this situation may be somehow alleviated. You may discuss this with your close friends and classmates, I am not sure you should broadly propagate this message. But I did present a fact and an opinion. 返回小木虫查看更多

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  • freerain

    这个都是中国学生自己自食其果
    不过美国硕士比博士更好找工作也是事实

  • terry_well

    这确实是个问题,有些人为了早点走上工作岗位获得绿卡,会在拿到硕士学位后放弃博士学位,美国的的博士很难毕业也是个问题,给人带来很多无形的压力。

  • hijaz

    这个只是美国某个大学的某个教授基于以前的经历,将不考虑在近期招收中国学生,原因是之前的某些中国学生深深地欺骗了他们的感情。
    中国学生那么多,总有一些学生会有一些外国人感觉不爽的地方。

  • hhuudd123

    引用回帖:
    2楼: Originally posted by freerain at 2012-04-06 01:27:07:
    这个都是中国学生自己自食其果
    不过美国硕士比博士更好找工作也是事实

    为什么美国硕士比博士更好找工作呢。还是只是你们这个专业哦

  • xinongfish

    悲剧啊,为以后的学生堵死了路

  • 佩恩_PAIN

    这个导师看起来是个不错的家伙。。可惜啊

  • fjtony163

    那时候这个事情挺“出名”的,好多培训学校都在说这件事。

    诚信为本

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